Re: Fund raising advertisement on the DPN
Le 2011-11-04 11:06, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 02:33:09PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
I, too, find really demotivating that non-regular editors can drive a
decision of such importance. It makes you feel like your active and
enthusiastic work during this last year - writing DPN every
two-weeks or so- isn't so valuable.
I don't think I have driven any decision, it's true that in an ideal world
I should have stayed out of this discussion but given that it was not only
about this specific case but about a general policy of what has its place on
the DPN or not, I felt important that my point of view be also considered.
So, let's try to get closer to an ideal world!
It might be argued that you are in conflict of interest here. As a
matter of mere style I, and many others with me, wouldn't have
participated in this thread beside an initial self-contained mail
presenting your position. Others would consider that more than a matter
of style and as something that should be avoided at all costs.
Can you please consider the possibility of stopping participating into
I personally don't think you're "driving" the decision. We've made clear
that the decision will be taken by regular editors and I think we have
consensus on the fact you're not among them. And I don't want to believe
that their positions can be affected by 1 or 2 more posts of yours.
At the same time, I've the impression your continuous participation in
this thread isn't helping either. There are people for which this topic
is clearly very touchy, seeing repeated mails from someone who is in
conflict of interest wouldn't help this decision.
From an external point of view, I think Tolimar was doing an excellent
job at trying to reach a decision, considering all point of view
(including yours!). I propose to leave this discussion to him and other
DPM editors, shall we? (yes, that's a rhetoric question)
I don't think your (as in Raphael's) position is being underrepresented
in this thread. It's pretty clear to all lurkers. If you think something
need to be added, I'm available to act as a mediator: you can mail your
extras to me (or Tolimar?) and I'll be happy to forward them if I
believe they'll add anything to the discussion.
Submitted to your consideration,
It is true that Raphaël is in conflict of interest on this topic. I
don't think this fact is underrepresented in the discussion, and I doubt
that anyone remains unaware of it, but feel free to remind it as often
as you think is warranted.
However, if you consider that only DPN editors shall be involved in this
discussion, then I submit to your consideration that you might want not
to get further involved in it.
That being said, if you have anything to add, I generously offer myself
to ensure it touches something DPN editors have neglected to bring to
the discussion and to relay it when it will.