* Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> [2022-03-23 10:25]:
On 2022/03/23 09:37, Ingo Jürgensmann wrote:So, are we now at a point where we ban people just because of some silly remarks in their posts and dislikes from single other persons?No, but I don't want people to keep feeling dread and wonder what he's going to say every time he blogs, and he's not being constructive, he hasn't been for a while, and this is by no means just about his last remarks, but about patterns of behaviour that he has had no interest in changing.
This. If you go on accusing members of the project to be running some sort of dictatorship, don't be surprised if they run out of patience with you eventually and will no longer afford you with the benefit of the doubt. You get out what you put in. And please stop framing a limited action against a particular individual with a known bad faith history as some sort of "new normal" that will hit anybody without warning. It isn't. It won't. You may disagree with the action, as Martin does. To be honest, I'm also on the fence with this one. There, I said it. Still, I'm not afraid of retaliation by Jonathan or DAM. You know why? Because I'm not painting them as some sort of detestable Evil that will be the downfall of Debian. Once you stop assuming good faith, your own behavior *will* change accordingly, and the sad thing is, most people don't even realize that and just see the other side reacting and feel vindicated that they were Right All Along. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. For a different example, look at Felix. Yes, he's quirky. He makes mistakes. I find myself disagreeing with him on quite a few technical and philosophical issues. But he exemplifies the good Debian citizen who does not just want to *be* right and make everyone else admit they were wrong. He tries to *do* right by everyone else, actively looking for solutions instead of lamenting the unfairness of it all. For that, he has my respect. Norbert has my pity. Leaving the soapbox now. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF CC8C 6BDD 1403 F4CA │ ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ ╰────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯
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