Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020
Hi Daniel
On 2020/02/18 21:15, Daniel Lange wrote:
>> I haven't publicly said this before, but I believe it was a big mistake:
>>
>> * Not having a bid committee for that vote
>> * Making it a private vote
>> * Not announcing the the DCC would be the bid committee
>> nor that it would be a private vote
>
> You have been part of the DCC at the time, just sayin' in case you forgot.
Yep, I've said the privately in the DCC before, I'm not sure what you're
alluding to above.
>> I've brought these up in various private discussions before, and
>> unfortunately it's too late to change that decision without further,
>> possibly worse consequences, but I think the current DebConf committee
>> should strongly consider setting up a bid committee again (even if it
>> largely or mostly overlaps with the DCC, that might just be natural) and
>> keep the bid decision public as it was in prior DebConfs. I've seen
>> people express this on IRC before and I hope they speak up on more
>> formal channels too.
>
> Translation: I did not get the result I wanted, so I'd like a "bid
> committee" next time in the hope that decisions will be more in line
> with my personal convictions.
Bad translation on your part.
> We held public review meetings for the DC21 bids. You did not care to
> show up for either of them.
That's good, the desire to have it public does not equate to a desire or
need for me to be there. IMO it's just important that this doesn't
happen behind closed doors again like last time.
>> On a purely personal note, I find it in rather poor taste to talk about
>> diversity in the context of having DC in a country with an active
>> apartheid regime.
>
> Roberto gave you an answer to this already.
>
> "active apartheid regime" is politically loaded lingo and shows where
> you stand.
> Employing it disqualifies rational arguments, if you had any.
It's really nothing controversial at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy, and if
you manage to find ambiguity in that, Netanyahu makes it very clear
where they stand on this matter:
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/11/702264118/netanyahu-says-israel-is-nation-state-of-the-jewish-people-and-them-alone
I'll leave it at that for tonight, I don't want to monopolize -project.
Feel free to take this further in private if you're sincere in
continuing a discussion about this.
-Jonathan
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