Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC
On 2019-12-23 07:15:21, Sam Hartman wrote:
> >>>>> "Norbert" == Norbert Preining <norbert@preining.info> writes:
>
> Norbert> Dear Pierre-Elliott, (I am not subscribed to d-p anymore)
>
> Norbert> thanks for your email. I would like to ask you for an
> Norbert> explanation:
>
> Norbert> On Sun, 22 Dec 2019, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> >> If you have troubles with diversity and the fact that to protect
> >> it, we have to be more careful with minorities than we have to be
> >> with the regular majority, no one is forcing you to stay in the
> >> project.
>
> Norbert> Could you please tell me how you came to the conclusion
> Norbert> that I have troubles with minorities?
>
> I think this may be a English issue.
> In this message I'm simply trying to help explain Pierre-Elliott's
> position, not to comment on it.
>
> As I understand it, Pierre-Elliott is suggesting that if you have
> trouble with the idea that we are more protective of minorities--that
> when marginalized communities speak we are more tolerant of anger and
> other emotions that can be perceived as uncivil--that you could leave.
Well, I would clarity as well here—is this the official position of the
project, that some groups (and I really don't care which groups) get
lenience on the CoC because they are minorities?
If so, that also troubles me somewhat. What Pierre-Elliott said in a
follow-up email (that neither the original email nor Tina's reply were
appropriate) is, IMO, how "equality for everyone in Debian" should be,
not that "oh, CoC is flexible depending on which group you belong to".
Of course, I belong to a priviledged group, so I am biased here. But I
would hope that equality starts with at least _intending_ to apply the
rules equaly.
iustin
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