Re: irc.debian.org
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 15:52 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> By design, IRC encourages people to do truly obnoxious things, like
> spamming
> the channel to announce they're going away, or indicating their status
> with
> nicknames (which also spams the channel).
If *users* announce they're away, it'll be spam no matter if it's in an
IRC channel or on Jabber. And I've seen a lot more people announcing
their status in their IM-nickname than is their IRC-nickname (9 chars
for nick pwnz)
> You also get spammed on IRC
> whenever someone joins or leaves a channel. Jabber prevents this by
> providing a real presence system.
you can ignore this in IRC too.
> Jabber provides all the same "modes" IRC
> does in group chat, except bans actually work because they're not
> stupidly
> tied to some arbitrary netmask.
yeah. ban is tied to user account ? who prevents an annoying user to
creates a lot of annoying accounts ?
> Nicknames changes, joins and parts aren't
> spammed to the channel unless your client adds them in for you (but
> changes
> are still reflected in the listing of who is in the chat).
you mean, like on irc ?
> Jabber networks
> don't go on begging sprees for funding. OFTC will invariably spam you
> like
> every other IRC network since the dawn of time the first moment they
> get more
> than a few users.
i'm sure there are jabber network which do that. but you can use a
gateway which doesnt. like using an irc network which doesnt do that.
Ok, so it's a flameware irc vs jabber ? On -project ?
Duh.
I'm not really used to thoses flames, but I thought they were taking
place on -devel. The initial post was about moving *irc*.debian.org from
an irc network to another. If you don't want to use irc, nobody forces
you. But why posting here a mail that has nothing to do with the initial
message ?
--
Yves-Alexis Perez
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