also sprach Joey Hess <email@example.com> [2005.12.12.2121 +0100]: > So when was the last time you tried installing Debian with this > task whose name you are not even sure of? I don't think I ever installed the task myself, but surely I installed GNOME and/or KDE, and the task doesn't really do anything else, or does it? Anyway, my comments are based on dozens of feedbacks I got from other users, none of whom was particularly excited at being dumped into plain X+KDE/GNOME without much integration. Just yesterday, someone wrote to me: I've used Debian for years and I love it and continue to use it on my servers. I use Ubuntu on the desktop and I love it too. I get a fluffy interface as nice as a Mac set up for me but importantly, I still get hardcore Debian commands because Debian is still underneath. I surely never heard a Debian user talk about a "fluffy interface" whilst installing a desktop environment. The desktop task installs KDE and GNOME, and then you log into KDE and it looks like ... well -- maybe that's fixed by now, but #248868 was a major PR problem at a big rollout we completed last year. GNOME looks much better after the first log-in, but something tells me this is in part due to Ubuntu... Why did you bring up d-i in this context anyway? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <firstname.lastname@example.org> : :' : proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP (sub)keys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! a c programmer asked whether computers have buddha's nature. as the answer, the master did "rm -rf" on the programmer's home directory. and then the c programmer became enlightened...
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