* Sven Luther (sven.luther@wanadoo.fr) wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 07:52:40AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > What makes it even worse is that on debian.org websites we claim to not > > sell products yet at the *Debian* booth at whichever UK expos DUS goes > > to we *are* selling products. It seems pretty likely that the sponsored > > booth is in Debian's name, either explicitly or as Debian-UK with the > > assumption that Debian-UK is the UK branch of Debian. > > I saw products being sold at LinuxTag's debian booth, and saw no major problem > with that. Great, then perhaps you'd support a move for Debian to become a commercial entity. I suspect you're in the minority but I'd be happy to be wrong. > > I believe there is some animosity due to the opt-out issue but that's > > not what I'm focused on since it's not terribly interesting. There are > > some important issues here regarding Debian's non-commercial stance and > > use of its name in other countries. > > Come on, be serious, selling a few tshirts and stuff during a couple yearly > expos and having the benefit go to debian is hardly what anyone serious minded > mentions as commercial when speaking about debian. I'm being completely serious and I certainly consider selling products to be commercial activity. > The problem would appear if there was a large volume being made, if the profit > didn't go exclusively to debian, and such. I don't believe being commercial has some kind of volume requirement. > > It might help to point out that I'm not in the UK.. > > He, thanks, i didn't know that. > > Anyway, if you are serious about getting this stuff cleared out, make a policy > proposal, but please stop this name calling non-sense. See, the issue is that I understood that there was already a policy of being non-commercial. It would seem our website and at least some other DDs would agree with that understanding. I don't mind a proposal to change that policy but I don't feel that excuses entities in other countries from having to follow the current policy. > If the proposal is good, it will either be adopted, or we can vote on this, > but i guess this would further ridiculie us in the face of the world than this > thread already does. I think we'd have to vote on it, personally.. Perhaps not though. I do think we should do some research into what our current donars would think of such a change in policy though. Either way I think it's certainly a fair question to ask of ourselves and don't feel asking it would somehow be of detriment to Debian. Thanks, Stephen
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