Hi, > During installation. How often does one install? Well, it does take a while :) Though when I installed mine, the installer didn't work at all yet because the kernel was too old so I built my own installer... I also occasionally hack the low level kernel code so I guess I simply don't count as a user in this discussion ;) > AFAIK they are incuded in the sid kernels (at least, maybe etch too) and you > can easily manually load them. Problem solved. Yes, I should have said "won't be loaded in the installed system". As a user I'd have to know which ones to load which is a support problem we wouldn't have if the installer just wrote the proper lines to /etc/modules. I understand it does now, but I don't understand why such a trivial change is generating this much noise (actually, I have my suspicions but that's beside the point). But then, I haven't understood the whole noise and probably don't want to. That said, the time being spent on this particular issue alone would suffice to fix the upstream kernel to auto-load the modules in question based on smu sysfs nodes or whatever... (and in fact, that's the way I work with(out) Debian most of the time; if something bothers me I fix it upstream.) johannes
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