Re: New policy draft available at http://master.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/policy/
>>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <ian@davenant.greenend.org.uk> writes:
Ian> Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: New policy draft available at http://master.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/policy/";):
>> Umm, no. I would not object to the DPL's delegate(s) having
>> the power to overide a formal objection, but there should be some
>> checks and balances. I was just trying to suggest a process by
>> wihch one could appeal to the tech ctte:
Ian> I think that the DPL's delegate should have full authority to do
Ian> whatever they feel like.
And I think we have grown too mch for simplistic ideas like
that to be viable. You don't say that tony blair's delegates
can do what they feel like, do you?
I'm sorry, this is no longer Debian of yore. We have 500
people, and once NM is open, the membership is going to
climb. We no longer know (an thus perhaps trust implicitly) one
other.
Ian> There are already two important checks and balances: firstly, since
Ian> they are the DPL's delegate the DPL can fire them if they're doing a
Ian> bad job.
Hmm. Again, you lean towards a solution concentrating power
into a few hands. Absolute power corrupts.
Ian> Secondly, any individual decision can be appealed to the
Ian> technical committee - whose explict purpose is resolving technical
Ian> disputes which can't be resolved any other way (ie, in most cases, by
Ian> argument in an appropriate forum).
Yeah, right. That last time the Ctte was called to do
anything, they bumbled around for weeks tryingto figure out how they
could do anything, and then there was nary a peep out of two of five
members of the ctte
Considering you were one of the two member who contributed
practically nothing to the ctte action, I find it ironic you are
proposing that the ctte be given such wide ranging powers.
Frankly, IMHO the ctte should merely be an advisory body for
the rest of the body; and the decisions really be tasken by other
mechanisms.
Ian> (Both of these mechanisms for overriding the policy maintainer(s) are
Ian> available to the membership via general resolution, too, but I expect
Ian> that to be unnecessary.)
And untenable, There have been almost no general resolutions,
and the process is so cumbersome that I suspect there never
shall be any.
manoj
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