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Re: Bug: Buster 10.0 Testing 20190617 Image LiveCD Will Not Boot



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Hello Pipo,

Regarding your suggestions:

1) To video record with phone has been one thought I have had.
The challenge is the message flashes so fast as human I cannot
even see the messages, just the fact the messages occur.  I
tried adding "debug" to the boot command parameters in hopes
that might show the messages in some more tangible manner that
in essence did not change the challenge to see the messages.

2) I do not think firmware is an issue as I have no problems
with the same problem Buster 10 Testing image if I choose any
other option on the splash screen than the Live Image option.
In addition I have no problems booting to Live image with
Lubuntu or Xubuntu for versions 19.04, 18.04, 16.04, 15.04, nor
with Linux Mint, nor with Knoppix, nor Centos, and many more on
both Lenovo systems (laptop and desktop).  I also had no
problems booting Debian Jessie 8 Live.  These Live Image boot
problems started with Debian 9 Stretch, but due to the odd
nature of the bug I have played the bugs in manner to enable
me to boot to Live Image for Debian 9 Stretch.  All of these
cross tests points in my extensive QA/Systems/OS testing
experience to a problem with how Debian vs other Debian based
Live Images effect the boot from the Splash Menu, ie the
commands used to boot the Live Image as that is what Debian
10 Buster Testing is showing, but I cannot capture it with
pic or video as the message flashes so fast one cannot
really see the message.

As an important side issue it seems to me if there is an error
due to some command parameter to boot from the splash screen
then the process used to boot via those commands should also
have method to pause to show the errors encountered.  I am
spending alot of time again trying to report obvious error
with error messages that do  not provide a means to obtain
the error messages the Live Boot is providing.  That causes
the reporting of the issue and error to be one of between a
rock and hard place void.


John L. Males
Toronto, Ontario
Canada
21 June 2019 15:34


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2019-06-21 19:12:15.862373561+0000-UTC Time:
1561144335.866101725

21 Jun 19:12:15 ntpdate[8753]: ntpdate 4.2.8p10@1.3728-o Sun
Feb 25 21:22:56 UTC 2018 (1)

21 Jun 19:12:30 ntpdate[8759]: step time server 74.208.26.225
offset -0.012241 sec

Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1 (2019-04-12)

Modified Debian GNU/Linux 9.9 (stretch)
(Alternative to Debian determined, work in progress)

cat /proc/cpuinfo (Selected):

model name	: AMD E-350 Processor

vmstat -s:

     16026156 K total memory
      3912988 K used memory
      9098448 K active memory
      5022900 K inactive memory
      1377408 K free memory
       292432 K buffer memory
     10443328 K swap cache
            0 K total swap
            0 K used swap
            0 K free swap
    143299371 non-nice user cpu ticks
     54301094 nice user cpu ticks
    160121311 system cpu ticks
    387831264 idle cpu ticks
      2470216 IO-wait cpu ticks
            0 IRQ cpu ticks
      3516082 softirq cpu ticks
            0 stolen cpu ticks
    289204198 pages paged in
     32704708 pages paged out
            0 pages swapped in
            0 pages swapped out
   2210197062 interrupts
   2477277560 CPU context switches
   1557283473 boot time
    378370601 forks

/proc/vmstat (Selected):

pgpgin 289204198
pgpgout 32704708
pswpin 0
pswpout 0
pgfree 46936698140
pgfault 79051764684
pgmajfault 904110

/proc/meminfo (Selected):

Mlocked:             144 kB
VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
VmallocChunk:          0 kB
HugePages_Total:       0

vmstat --partition /dev/sda8 (Swap):

partition was not found

sar -b:

Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 (debian) 	06/21/2019
_x86_64_	(2 CPU)

12:00:01 AM  pgpgin/s pgpgout/s   fault/s  majflt/s  pgfree/s
pgscank/s pgscand/s pgsteal/s    %vmeff

06:45:01 PM      0.00      0.00  22435.75      0.00
12467.11      0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00 06:55:01
PM      0.00      0.00  22063.20      0.00  12030.96
0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00 07:05:01 PM      0.00
0.00  22534.87      0.00  12439.55      0.00      0.00
0.00      0.00 Average:         0.00      3.32  22081.70
0.00  11869.76      1.30      0.00      1.30     99.97

ps -A:

%CPU  START   TIME  C CLS COMMAND             TIME  NI   PID
POL PRI    SZ   RSS    VSZ  SIZE  MAJFL  MINFL SCH STAT
TIME WCHAN

 0.0 May  8  51:09  0  TS kswapd0         00:51:09   0    35
TS   19     0     0      0     0      0      0   0 S
00:51:09 -


Message replied to:

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 00:48:12 +0000
From: "John L. Males" <jlmales@gmail.com>
To: debian-live@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug: Buster 10.0 Testing 20190617 Image LiveCD
Will Not Boot


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> Lou,
> 
> Always makes sense to rule out variables and not to assume.
> 
> OS has been Linux Kernel based since 1999.
> 
> I use "dd bs=8192 if=Live.iso of=/dev/USBDrive ; sync" most of
> time.   Most meaning sometimes use a "bs=4096" if the
> information or math of ISO image size says/suggests so.
> 
> The sync is important as there is often lots of image still
> buffered in Kernel.  Often takes a few minutes after dd
> completes for sync to ensure buffers related to dd are written
> to the USBDrive (i.e. /dev/sdb).  In this instance Debian
> 9.9.0 LiveCD (LXDE) was used via laptop that has had the
> ongoing LiveCD boot issues of Debian 9.x I have played the
> bugs against each other to be able to boot from the laptop.
> 
> 
> John L. Males
> Toronto, Ontario
> Canada
> 20 June 2019 20:48
> 
> 
> ================================================================
> 
> 2019-06-21 00:35:14.156350816+0000-UTC Time:
> 1561077314.159613415
> 
> 21 Jun 00:35:14 ntpdate[4535]: ntpdate 4.2.8p10@1.3728-o Sun
> Feb 25 21:22:56 UTC 2018 (1)
> 
> 21 Jun 00:35:28 ntpdate[4541]: step time server 206.108.0.131
> offset -0.006477 sec
> 
> Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1 (2019-04-12)
> 
> Modified Debian GNU/Linux 9.9 (stretch)
> (Alternative to Debian determined, work in progress)
> 
> cat /proc/cpuinfo (Selected):
> 
> model name	: AMD E-350 Processor
> 
> vmstat -s:
> 
>      16026156 K total memory
>       3770552 K used memory
>       9750176 K active memory
>       5203816 K inactive memory
>        541176 K free memory
>        292240 K buffer memory
>      11422188 K swap cache
>             0 K total swap
>             0 K used swap
>             0 K free swap
>     141947756 non-nice user cpu ticks
>      53380973 nice user cpu ticks
>     157137363 system cpu ticks
>     380106848 idle cpu ticks
>       2466874 IO-wait cpu ticks
>             0 IRQ cpu ticks
>       3458008 softirq cpu ticks
>             0 stolen cpu ticks
>     289204170 pages paged in
>      32476380 pages paged out
>             0 pages swapped in
>             0 pages swapped out
>    2109821021 interrupts
>    2325654452 CPU context switches
>    1557283473 boot time
>     371641245 forks
> 
> /proc/vmstat (Selected):
> 
> pgpgin 289204170
> pgpgout 32476380
> pswpin 0
> pswpout 0
> pgfree 46141268903
> pgfault 77571991655
> pgmajfault 904109
> 
> /proc/meminfo (Selected):
> 
> Mlocked:             144 kB
> VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
> VmallocChunk:          0 kB
> HugePages_Total:       0
> 
> vmstat --partition /dev/sda8 (Swap):
> 
> partition was not found
> 
> sar -b:
> 
> Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 (debian) 	06/21/2019
> _x86_64_	(2 CPU)
> 
> 12:00:01 AM  pgpgin/s pgpgout/s   fault/s  majflt/s  pgfree/s
> pgscank/s pgscand/s pgsteal/s    %vmeff
> 
> 12:15:01 AM      0.00      0.00  21707.77      0.00
> 11651.89      0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00 12:25:01
> AM      0.00      0.00  22399.86      0.00  12227.66
> 0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00 12:35:01 AM      0.00
> 0.00  21827.15      0.00  11505.48      0.00      0.00
> 0.00      0.00 Average:         0.00      0.00  22141.90
> 0.00  11927.47      0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00
> 
> ps -A:
> 
> %CPU  START   TIME  C CLS COMMAND             TIME  NI   PID
> POL PRI    SZ   RSS    VSZ  SIZE  MAJFL  MINFL SCH STAT
> TIME WCHAN
> 
>  0.0 May  8  51:09  0  TS kswapd0         00:51:09   0    35
> TS   19     0     0      0     0      0      0   0 S
> 00:51:09 -
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