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Re: Bug: Buster 10.0 Testing 20190617 Image LiveCD Will Not Boot



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Alf,

Great you tried a few machines with USB image for real boot of
machines via the USB.  I would assume that if the issue was of
larger scope of unknown variables that would affect more
machines then there be alot more raising the issue.

The two different machines that I have have cause to run Live
images on are Lenovo's.  One machine your tested with was a
Lenovo laptop.  One of the failing machines for the LiveCD boot
images is the Lenovo laptop of mine.  The other failing system
is also a Lenovo.

Again I need to be clear it is the option on the splash screen
to boot the Live image that fails.  If one chooses any of the
other options of that same image that appear on the splash boot
screen they all work.  So the issue is specific to choosing the
Live boot image of the image only.  What is amazing is Lubuntu,
Xubuntu, Linux Mint, Knoppix, and many many more Live images
all boot just fine and have for years with now issue ant they
are all Debian based!  With Debian the issues started to arise
with Stretch 9.x.  I never has an issue with Debian 8 Live
images on these machines as I recall.

What I really need is how to obtain the error message(s) the
live boot is issuing on the splash screen for the Live Image
boot.  I expect those messages that flash by in subsecond speed
are first step to identify why the Live image does not boot.


John L. Males
Toronto, Ontario
Canada
20 June 2019 16:23


================================================================

2019-06-20 20:10:40.283351518+0000-UTC Time:
1561061440.286592079

20 Jun 20:10:40 ntpdate[1197]: ntpdate 4.2.8p10@1.3728-o Sun
Feb 25 21:22:56 UTC 2018 (1)

20 Jun 20:10:54 ntpdate[1205]: step time server 206.108.0.131
offset -0.005361 sec

Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1 (2019-04-12)

Modified Debian GNU/Linux 9.9 (stretch)
(Alternative to Debian determined, work in progress)

cat /proc/cpuinfo (Selected):

model name	: AMD E-350 Processor

vmstat -s:

     16026156 K total memory
      3775972 K used memory
      9521576 K active memory
      5194248 K inactive memory
       778828 K free memory
       292240 K buffer memory
     11179116 K swap cache
            0 K total swap
            0 K used swap
            0 K free swap
    141610564 non-nice user cpu ticks
     53148982 nice user cpu ticks
    156447571 system cpu ticks
    378292701 idle cpu ticks
      2465994 IO-wait cpu ticks
            0 IRQ cpu ticks
      3443958 softirq cpu ticks
            0 stolen cpu ticks
    289204170 pages paged in
     32476380 pages paged out
            0 pages swapped in
            0 pages swapped out
   2085975195 interrupts
   2289359917 CPU context switches
   1557283473 boot time
    370039953 forks

/proc/vmstat (Selected):

pgpgin 289204170
pgpgout 32476380
pswpin 0
pswpout 0
pgfree 45953551731
pgfault 77221858206
pgmajfault 904109

/proc/meminfo (Selected):

Mlocked:             144 kB
VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
VmallocChunk:          0 kB
HugePages_Total:       0

vmstat --partition /dev/sda8 (Swap):

partition was not found

sar -b:

Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 (debian) 	06/20/2019
_x86_64_	(2 CPU)

12:00:01 AM  pgpgin/s pgpgout/s   fault/s  majflt/s  pgfree/s
pgscank/s pgscand/s pgsteal/s    %vmeff

07:45:01 PM      0.00      0.00  22179.84      0.00
11988.16      0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00 07:55:01
PM      0.00      0.00  21784.54      0.00  11469.02
0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00 08:05:01 PM      0.00
0.00  22312.34      0.00  12116.62      0.00      0.00
0.00      0.00 Average:         0.10     71.78  22162.00
0.00  11977.84      6.79      0.01      6.80    100.00

ps -A:

%CPU  START   TIME  C CLS COMMAND             TIME  NI   PID
POL PRI    SZ   RSS    VSZ  SIZE  MAJFL  MINFL SCH STAT
TIME WCHAN

 0.0 May  8  51:09  0  TS kswapd0         00:51:09   0    35
TS   19     0     0      0     0      0      0   0 S
00:51:09 -


Message replied to:

Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 18:06:35 +0000
From: "John L. Males" <jlmales@gmail.com>
To: debian-live@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug: Buster 10.0 Testing 20190617 Image LiveCD
Will Not Boot


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> Alf,
> 
> Testing via a VM is not the same as booting native on real
> machine.  I could list a number of LiveCD and Non-Live Images
> that fail to boot in VM, but boot on real machine just fine.
> 
> I will repeat again same image same PC fails the LiveCD boot,
> but as I noted boots fine using any other splash boot option
> of that same image.  Therefore there is a problem with the
> LiveCD boot option that I did note this has been an ongoing in
> variation with the Stretch 9.x LiveCD images.  This means the
> issue(s) have been about for some time now, just worse with
> Buster 10 Testing. I know how to work about using the bugs
> to advantage with the 9.x LiveCD images.
> 
> 
> John L. Males
> Toronto, Ontario
> Canada
> 20 June 2019 14:06
> 
> 
> ================================================================
> 
> 2019-06-20 17:55:45.966839671+0000-UTC Time:
> 1561053345.970263680
> 
> 20 Jun 17:55:45 ntpdate[16109]: ntpdate 4.2.8p10@1.3728-o Sun
> Feb 25 21:22:56 UTC 2018 (1)
> 
> 20 Jun 17:56:00 ntpdate[16116]: step time server 206.108.0.131
> offset -0.007045 sec
> 
> Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1 (2019-04-12)
> 
> Modified Debian GNU/Linux 9.9 (stretch)
> (Alternative to Debian determined, work in progress)
> 
> cat /proc/cpuinfo (Selected):
> 
> model name	: AMD E-350 Processor
> 
> vmstat -s:
> 
>      16026156 K total memory
>       3768516 K used memory
>       9448064 K active memory
>       5196508 K inactive memory
>        850432 K free memory
>        292240 K buffer memory
>      11114968 K swap cache
>             0 K total swap
>             0 K used swap
>             0 K free swap
>     141447710 non-nice user cpu ticks
>      53051620 nice user cpu ticks
>     156093662 system cpu ticks
>     377339591 idle cpu ticks
>       2465563 IO-wait cpu ticks
>             0 IRQ cpu ticks
>       3436650 softirq cpu ticks
>             0 stolen cpu ticks
>     289204170 pages paged in
>      32476380 pages paged out
>             0 pages swapped in
>             0 pages swapped out
>    2073867145 interrupts
>    2271355632 CPU context switches
>    1557283473 boot time
>     369223784 forks
> 
> /proc/vmstat (Selected):
> 
> pgpgin 289204170
> pgpgout 32476380
> pswpin 0
> pswpout 0
> pgfree 45857655061
> pgfault 77043328335
> pgmajfault 904108
> 
> /proc/meminfo (Selected):
> 
> Mlocked:             144 kB
> VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
> VmallocChunk:          0 kB
> HugePages_Total:       0
> 
> vmstat --partition /dev/sda8 (Swap):
> 
> partition was not found
> 
> sar -b:
> 
> Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 (debian) 	06/20/2019
> _x86_64_	(2 CPU)
> 
> 12:00:01 AM  pgpgin/s pgpgout/s   fault/s  majflt/s  pgfree/s
> pgscank/s pgscand/s pgsteal/s    %vmeff
> 
> 05:35:01 PM      0.00      0.00  21789.31      0.00
> 11491.05      0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00 05:45:01
> PM      0.00      0.00  22193.83      0.00  12401.98
> 0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00 05:55:01 PM      0.00
> 0.00  21823.39      0.00  11570.44      0.00      0.00
> 0.00      0.00 Average:         0.12     80.46  22173.02
> 0.00  11991.82      7.61      0.01      7.62    100.00
> 
> ps -A:
> 
> %CPU  START   TIME  C CLS COMMAND             TIME  NI   PID
> POL PRI    SZ   RSS    VSZ  SIZE  MAJFL  MINFL SCH STAT
> TIME WCHAN
> 
>  0.0 May  8  51:09  0  TS kswapd0         00:51:09   0    35
> TS   19     0     0      0     0      0      0   0 S
> 00:51:09 -
> 
> 
> Message replied to:
> 
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 16:08:28 +0000
> From: "John L. Males" <jlmales@gmail.com>
> To: debian-live@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Bug: Buster 10.0 Testing 20190617 Image LiveCD Will
> Not Boot
> 
> 
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> > Hello,
> > 
> > Using the LiveCD LXDE image of 20190617 Will not boot to
> > Live Image.
> > 
> > Messages flash very quickly that make it difficult to see
> > the actual messages.  Adding the "debug" option to the boot
> > command line for the LiveCD boot has no impact on the speed
> > or type of error occurring.
> > 
> > The best I can see from several attempts to boot the LiveCD
> > image is some sort of error in the options for booting the
> > LiveCD image.
> > 
> > If one chooses any other menu option to boot such as
> > installing Debian there is no error and the image boots to
> > the install or intended menu item of initial boot splash
> > screen to select what one wants.
> > 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > 
> > 
> > John L. Males
> > Toronto, Ontario
> > Canada
> > 19 June 2019 23:55/20 June 2019 11:59/12:08
> > 
> > 
> > ================================================================
> > 
> > 2019-06-20 15:49:28.838489012+0000-UTC Time:
> > 1561045768.841736848
> > 
> > 20 Jun 15:49:28 ntpdate[18598]: ntpdate 4.2.8p10@1.3728-o
> > Sun Feb 25 21:22:56 UTC 2018 (1)
> > 
> > 20 Jun 15:49:43 ntpdate[18604]: step time server
> > 206.108.0.133 offset -0.006861 sec
> > 
> > Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1 (2019-04-12)
> > 
> > Modified Debian GNU/Linux 9.9 (stretch)
> > (Alternative to Debian determined, work in progress)
> > 
> > cat /proc/cpuinfo (Selected):
> > 
> > model name	: AMD E-350 Processor
> > 
> > vmstat -s:
> > 
> >      16026156 K total memory
> >       3768068 K used memory
> >       9372920 K active memory
> >       5201456 K inactive memory
> >        920600 K free memory
> >        291960 K buffer memory
> >      11045528 K swap cache
> >             0 K total swap
> >             0 K used swap
> >             0 K free swap
> >     141283014 non-nice user cpu ticks
> >      52985512 nice user cpu ticks
> >     155757853 system cpu ticks
> >     376439728 idle cpu ticks
> >       2465163 IO-wait cpu ticks
> >             0 IRQ cpu ticks
> >       3429842 softirq cpu ticks
> >             0 stolen cpu ticks
> >     289202954 pages paged in
> >      32476364 pages paged out
> >             0 pages swapped in
> >             0 pages swapped out
> >    2062517674 interrupts
> >    2254476054 CPU context switches
> >    1557283473 boot time
> >     368459123 forks
> > 
> > /proc/vmstat (Selected):
> > 
> > pgpgin 289202954
> > pgpgout 32476364
> > pswpin 0
> > pswpout 0
> > pgfree 45768130755
> > pgfault 76876606375
> > pgmajfault 904106
> > 
> > /proc/meminfo (Selected):
> > 
> > Mlocked:             144 kB
> > VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
> > VmallocChunk:          0 kB
> > HugePages_Total:       0
> > 
> > vmstat --partition /dev/sda8 (Swap):
> > 
> > partition was not found
> > 
> > sar -b:
> > 
> > Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 (debian) 	06/20/2019
> > _x86_64_	(2 CPU)
> > 
> > 12:00:01 AM  pgpgin/s pgpgout/s   fault/s  majflt/s
> > pgfree/s pgscank/s pgscand/s pgsteal/s    %vmeff
> > 
> > 03:25:01 PM      0.00      0.00  22305.00      0.00
> > 12096.16      0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00 03:35:01
> > PM      0.00      0.00  22003.73      0.00  11719.67
> > 0.00      0.00      0.00      0.00 03:45:01 PM      0.00
> > 0.00  22178.57      0.00  12160.87      0.00      0.00
> > 0.00      0.00 Average:         0.11     91.53  22196.36
> > 0.00  12016.33      8.66      0.01      8.67    100.00
> > 
> > ps -A:
> > 
> > %CPU  START   TIME  C CLS COMMAND             TIME  NI   PID
> > POL PRI    SZ   RSS    VSZ  SIZE  MAJFL  MINFL SCH STAT
> > TIME WCHAN
> > 
> >  0.0 May  8  51:09  0  TS kswapd0         00:51:09   0    35
> > TS   19     0     0      0     0      0      0   0 S
> > 00:51:09 -
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