Re: Bug: Buster 10.0 Testing 20190617 Image LiveCD Will Not Boot
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Lou,
I cannot access any console if I choose the LiveCD image option.
As I have indicated with Buster 10 Testing I cannot boot to the
Live Image on either machine I have. This means I cannot
access the other TTY consoles.
With Stretch 9.x I can boot to the Live Image on the two
machines if I "play a dance" in what 9.x image I choose to
use. In all cases I can boot to all the other splash screen
boot choices with Buster 10 Testing and Stretch 9.x.
I can boot to Live image with Lubuntu and Xubuntu 15.04,
16.04, 18.04, 19.04, Linux Mint, Knoppix and Debian 8 Jessie to
name just a few with no problems/issues. This strongly suggests
to me that starting with Debian Stretch 9 and continuing with
Debian Buster 10 that there not only has been a change in how
the Live Image is created or configured. The best guess I have
from the quickly flashing error for the Live Image boot is some
boot parameter is incorrect.
I have compared the boot parameters of the different boot
choice options with the Buster 10 Testing LiveCD and using
those differences other that the kernel and initrd the other
options choose and other permutation choices of what to remove
as boot option or add as boot option to the Live Image boot
options with no success of being able to boot to the Live Image
of the LiveCD image. I have also tried adding the "debug"
option to the Live Image boot options in hopes I see more or
actually be able to see the error messages that occur that
cause the Live Image option to fail and just return to the
initial splash screen one chooses to start Live Image or
language, or install style choice.
John L. Males
Toronto, Ontario
20 June 2019 19:17
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2019-06-20 22:54:08.836816761+0000-UTC Time:
1561071248.840116108
20 Jun 22:54:08 ntpdate[32602]: ntpdate 4.2.8p10@1.3728-o Sun
Feb 25 21:22:56 UTC 2018 (1)
20 Jun 22:54:23 ntpdate[32609]: step time server 206.108.0.133
offset -0.007636 sec
Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1 (2019-04-12)
Modified Debian GNU/Linux 9.9 (stretch)
(Alternative to Debian determined, work in progress)
cat /proc/cpuinfo (Selected):
model name : AMD E-350 Processor
vmstat -s:
16026156 K total memory
3775396 K used memory
9601980 K active memory
5194260 K inactive memory
698872 K free memory
292240 K buffer memory
11259648 K swap cache
0 K total swap
0 K used swap
0 K free swap
141796671 non-nice user cpu ticks
53282809 nice user cpu ticks
156874268 system cpu ticks
379444038 idle cpu ticks
2466552 IO-wait cpu ticks
0 IRQ cpu ticks
3452700 softirq cpu ticks
0 stolen cpu ticks
289204170 pages paged in
32476380 pages paged out
0 pages swapped in
0 pages swapped out
2100659732 interrupts
2311275345 CPU context switches
1557283473 boot time
371029736 forks
/proc/vmstat (Selected):
pgpgin 289204170
pgpgout 32476380
pswpin 0
pswpout 0
pgfree 46069271617
pgfault 77438102608
pgmajfault 904109
/proc/meminfo (Selected):
Mlocked: 144 kB
VmallocTotal: 34359738367 kB
VmallocChunk: 0 kB
HugePages_Total: 0
vmstat --partition /dev/sda8 (Swap):
partition was not found
sar -b:
Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 (debian) 06/20/2019
_x86_64_ (2 CPU)
12:00:01 AM pgpgin/s pgpgout/s fault/s majflt/s pgfree/s
pgscank/s pgscand/s pgsteal/s %vmeff
10:25:01 PM 0.00 0.00 22351.19 0.00
12126.97 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 10:35:01
PM 0.00 0.00 21978.19 0.00 11708.37
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 10:45:01 PM 0.00
0.00 22245.13 0.00 12109.75 0.00 0.00
0.00 0.00 Average: 0.09 63.37 22148.51
0.00 11957.30 5.99 0.01 6.00 100.00
ps -A:
%CPU START TIME C CLS COMMAND TIME NI PID
POL PRI SZ RSS VSZ SIZE MAJFL MINFL SCH STAT
TIME WCHAN
0.0 May 8 51:09 0 TS kswapd0 00:51:09 0 35
TS 19 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 S
00:51:09 -
Message replied to:
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 20:23:30 +0000
From: "John L. Males" <jlmales@gmail.com>
To: debian-live@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug: Buster 10.0 Testing 20190617 Image LiveCD
Will Not Boot
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> Alf,
>
> Great you tried a few machines with USB image for real boot of
> machines via the USB. I would assume that if the issue was of
> larger scope of unknown variables that would affect more
> machines then there be alot more raising the issue.
>
> The two different machines that I have have cause to run Live
> images on are Lenovo's. One machine your tested with was a
> Lenovo laptop. One of the failing machines for the LiveCD
> boot images is the Lenovo laptop of mine. The other failing
> system is also a Lenovo.
>
> Again I need to be clear it is the option on the splash screen
> to boot the Live image that fails. If one chooses any of the
> other options of that same image that appear on the splash
> boot screen they all work. So the issue is specific to
> choosing the Live boot image of the image only. What is
> amazing is Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Linux Mint, Knoppix, and many
> many more Live images all boot just fine and have for years
> with now issue ant they are all Debian based! With Debian
> the issues started to arise with Stretch 9.x. I never has an
> issue with Debian 8 Live images on these machines as I recall.
>
> What I really need is how to obtain the error message(s) the
> live boot is issuing on the splash screen for the Live Image
> boot. I expect those messages that flash by in subsecond
> speed are first step to identify why the Live image does not
> boot.
>
>
> John L. Males
> Toronto, Ontario
> Canada
> 20 June 2019 16:23
>
>
> ================================================================
>
> 2019-06-20 20:10:40.283351518+0000-UTC Time:
> 1561061440.286592079
>
> 20 Jun 20:10:40 ntpdate[1197]: ntpdate 4.2.8p10@1.3728-o Sun
> Feb 25 21:22:56 UTC 2018 (1)
>
> 20 Jun 20:10:54 ntpdate[1205]: step time server 206.108.0.131
> offset -0.005361 sec
>
> Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1 (2019-04-12)
>
> Modified Debian GNU/Linux 9.9 (stretch)
> (Alternative to Debian determined, work in progress)
>
> cat /proc/cpuinfo (Selected):
>
> model name : AMD E-350 Processor
>
> vmstat -s:
>
> 16026156 K total memory
> 3775972 K used memory
> 9521576 K active memory
> 5194248 K inactive memory
> 778828 K free memory
> 292240 K buffer memory
> 11179116 K swap cache
> 0 K total swap
> 0 K used swap
> 0 K free swap
> 141610564 non-nice user cpu ticks
> 53148982 nice user cpu ticks
> 156447571 system cpu ticks
> 378292701 idle cpu ticks
> 2465994 IO-wait cpu ticks
> 0 IRQ cpu ticks
> 3443958 softirq cpu ticks
> 0 stolen cpu ticks
> 289204170 pages paged in
> 32476380 pages paged out
> 0 pages swapped in
> 0 pages swapped out
> 2085975195 interrupts
> 2289359917 CPU context switches
> 1557283473 boot time
> 370039953 forks
>
> /proc/vmstat (Selected):
>
> pgpgin 289204170
> pgpgout 32476380
> pswpin 0
> pswpout 0
> pgfree 45953551731
> pgfault 77221858206
> pgmajfault 904109
>
> /proc/meminfo (Selected):
>
> Mlocked: 144 kB
> VmallocTotal: 34359738367 kB
> VmallocChunk: 0 kB
> HugePages_Total: 0
>
> vmstat --partition /dev/sda8 (Swap):
>
> partition was not found
>
> sar -b:
>
> Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 (debian) 06/20/2019
> _x86_64_ (2 CPU)
>
> 12:00:01 AM pgpgin/s pgpgout/s fault/s majflt/s pgfree/s
> pgscank/s pgscand/s pgsteal/s %vmeff
>
> 07:45:01 PM 0.00 0.00 22179.84 0.00
> 11988.16 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 07:55:01
> PM 0.00 0.00 21784.54 0.00 11469.02
> 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 08:05:01 PM 0.00
> 0.00 22312.34 0.00 12116.62 0.00 0.00
> 0.00 0.00 Average: 0.10 71.78 22162.00
> 0.00 11977.84 6.79 0.01 6.80 100.00
>
> ps -A:
>
> %CPU START TIME C CLS COMMAND TIME NI PID
> POL PRI SZ RSS VSZ SIZE MAJFL MINFL SCH STAT
> TIME WCHAN
>
> 0.0 May 8 51:09 0 TS kswapd0 00:51:09 0 35
> TS 19 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 S
> 00:51:09 -
>
>
> Message replied to:
>
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 18:06:35 +0000
> From: "John L. Males" <jlmales@gmail.com>
> To: debian-live@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Bug: Buster 10.0 Testing 20190617 Image LiveCD
> Will Not Boot
>
>
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> > Alf,
> >
> > Testing via a VM is not the same as booting native on real
> > machine. I could list a number of LiveCD and Non-Live
> > Images that fail to boot in VM, but boot on real machine
> > just fine.
> >
> > I will repeat again same image same PC fails the LiveCD
> > boot, but as I noted boots fine using any other splash boot
> > option of that same image. Therefore there is a problem
> > with the LiveCD boot option that I did note this has been
> > an ongoing in variation with the Stretch 9.x LiveCD
> > images. This means the issue(s) have been about for some
> > time now, just worse with Buster 10 Testing. I know how to
> > work about using the bugs to advantage with the 9.x LiveCD
> > images.
> >
> >
> > John L. Males
> > Toronto, Ontario
> > Canada
> > 20 June 2019 14:06
> >
> >
> > ================================================================
> >
> > 2019-06-20 17:55:45.966839671+0000-UTC Time:
> > 1561053345.970263680
> >
> > 20 Jun 17:55:45 ntpdate[16109]: ntpdate 4.2.8p10@1.3728-o
> > Sun Feb 25 21:22:56 UTC 2018 (1)
> >
> > 20 Jun 17:56:00 ntpdate[16116]: step time server
> > 206.108.0.131 offset -0.007045 sec
> >
> > Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1 (2019-04-12)
> >
> > Modified Debian GNU/Linux 9.9 (stretch)
> > (Alternative to Debian determined, work in progress)
> >
> > cat /proc/cpuinfo (Selected):
> >
> > model name : AMD E-350 Processor
> >
> > vmstat -s:
> >
> > 16026156 K total memory
> > 3768516 K used memory
> > 9448064 K active memory
> > 5196508 K inactive memory
> > 850432 K free memory
> > 292240 K buffer memory
> > 11114968 K swap cache
> > 0 K total swap
> > 0 K used swap
> > 0 K free swap
> > 141447710 non-nice user cpu ticks
> > 53051620 nice user cpu ticks
> > 156093662 system cpu ticks
> > 377339591 idle cpu ticks
> > 2465563 IO-wait cpu ticks
> > 0 IRQ cpu ticks
> > 3436650 softirq cpu ticks
> > 0 stolen cpu ticks
> > 289204170 pages paged in
> > 32476380 pages paged out
> > 0 pages swapped in
> > 0 pages swapped out
> > 2073867145 interrupts
> > 2271355632 CPU context switches
> > 1557283473 boot time
> > 369223784 forks
> >
> > /proc/vmstat (Selected):
> >
> > pgpgin 289204170
> > pgpgout 32476380
> > pswpin 0
> > pswpout 0
> > pgfree 45857655061
> > pgfault 77043328335
> > pgmajfault 904108
> >
> > /proc/meminfo (Selected):
> >
> > Mlocked: 144 kB
> > VmallocTotal: 34359738367 kB
> > VmallocChunk: 0 kB
> > HugePages_Total: 0
> >
> > vmstat --partition /dev/sda8 (Swap):
> >
> > partition was not found
> >
> > sar -b:
> >
> > Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 (debian) 06/20/2019
> > _x86_64_ (2 CPU)
> >
> > 12:00:01 AM pgpgin/s pgpgout/s fault/s majflt/s
> > pgfree/s pgscank/s pgscand/s pgsteal/s %vmeff
> >
> > 05:35:01 PM 0.00 0.00 21789.31 0.00
> > 11491.05 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 05:45:01
> > PM 0.00 0.00 22193.83 0.00 12401.98
> > 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 05:55:01 PM 0.00
> > 0.00 21823.39 0.00 11570.44 0.00 0.00
> > 0.00 0.00 Average: 0.12 80.46 22173.02
> > 0.00 11991.82 7.61 0.01 7.62 100.00
> >
> > ps -A:
> >
> > %CPU START TIME C CLS COMMAND TIME NI PID
> > POL PRI SZ RSS VSZ SIZE MAJFL MINFL SCH STAT
> > TIME WCHAN
> >
> > 0.0 May 8 51:09 0 TS kswapd0 00:51:09 0 35
> > TS 19 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 S
> > 00:51:09 -
> >
> >
> > Message replied to:
> >
> > Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 16:08:28 +0000
> > From: "John L. Males" <jlmales@gmail.com>
> > To: debian-live@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Bug: Buster 10.0 Testing 20190617 Image LiveCD Will
> > Not Boot
> >
> >
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> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Using the LiveCD LXDE image of 20190617 Will not boot to
> > > Live Image.
> > >
> > > Messages flash very quickly that make it difficult to see
> > > the actual messages. Adding the "debug" option to the
> > > boot command line for the LiveCD boot has no impact on
> > > the speed or type of error occurring.
> > >
> > > The best I can see from several attempts to boot the
> > > LiveCD image is some sort of error in the options for
> > > booting the LiveCD image.
> > >
> > > If one chooses any other menu option to boot such as
> > > installing Debian there is no error and the image boots to
> > > the install or intended menu item of initial boot splash
> > > screen to select what one wants.
> > >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > John L. Males
> > > Toronto, Ontario
> > > Canada
> > > 19 June 2019 23:55/20 June 2019 11:59/12:08
> > >
> > >
> > > ================================================================
> > >
> > > 2019-06-20 15:49:28.838489012+0000-UTC Time:
> > > 1561045768.841736848
> > >
> > > 20 Jun 15:49:28 ntpdate[18598]: ntpdate 4.2.8p10@1.3728-o
> > > Sun Feb 25 21:22:56 UTC 2018 (1)
> > >
> > > 20 Jun 15:49:43 ntpdate[18604]: step time server
> > > 206.108.0.133 offset -0.006861 sec
> > >
> > > Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1 (2019-04-12)
> > >
> > > Modified Debian GNU/Linux 9.9 (stretch)
> > > (Alternative to Debian determined, work in progress)
> > >
> > > cat /proc/cpuinfo (Selected):
> > >
> > > model name : AMD E-350 Processor
> > >
> > > vmstat -s:
> > >
> > > 16026156 K total memory
> > > 3768068 K used memory
> > > 9372920 K active memory
> > > 5201456 K inactive memory
> > > 920600 K free memory
> > > 291960 K buffer memory
> > > 11045528 K swap cache
> > > 0 K total swap
> > > 0 K used swap
> > > 0 K free swap
> > > 141283014 non-nice user cpu ticks
> > > 52985512 nice user cpu ticks
> > > 155757853 system cpu ticks
> > > 376439728 idle cpu ticks
> > > 2465163 IO-wait cpu ticks
> > > 0 IRQ cpu ticks
> > > 3429842 softirq cpu ticks
> > > 0 stolen cpu ticks
> > > 289202954 pages paged in
> > > 32476364 pages paged out
> > > 0 pages swapped in
> > > 0 pages swapped out
> > > 2062517674 interrupts
> > > 2254476054 CPU context switches
> > > 1557283473 boot time
> > > 368459123 forks
> > >
> > > /proc/vmstat (Selected):
> > >
> > > pgpgin 289202954
> > > pgpgout 32476364
> > > pswpin 0
> > > pswpout 0
> > > pgfree 45768130755
> > > pgfault 76876606375
> > > pgmajfault 904106
> > >
> > > /proc/meminfo (Selected):
> > >
> > > Mlocked: 144 kB
> > > VmallocTotal: 34359738367 kB
> > > VmallocChunk: 0 kB
> > > HugePages_Total: 0
> > >
> > > vmstat --partition /dev/sda8 (Swap):
> > >
> > > partition was not found
> > >
> > > sar -b:
> > >
> > > Linux 4.9.0-9-amd64 (debian) 06/20/2019
> > > _x86_64_ (2 CPU)
> > >
> > > 12:00:01 AM pgpgin/s pgpgout/s fault/s majflt/s
> > > pgfree/s pgscank/s pgscand/s pgsteal/s %vmeff
> > >
> > > 03:25:01 PM 0.00 0.00 22305.00 0.00
> > > 12096.16 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 03:35:01
> > > PM 0.00 0.00 22003.73 0.00 11719.67
> > > 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 03:45:01 PM 0.00
> > > 0.00 22178.57 0.00 12160.87 0.00 0.00
> > > 0.00 0.00 Average: 0.11 91.53 22196.36
> > > 0.00 12016.33 8.66 0.01 8.67 100.00
> > >
> > > ps -A:
> > >
> > > %CPU START TIME C CLS COMMAND TIME NI
> > > PID POL PRI SZ RSS VSZ SIZE MAJFL MINFL SCH
> > > STAT TIME WCHAN
> > >
> > > 0.0 May 8 51:09 0 TS kswapd0 00:51:09 0
> > > 35 TS 19 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 S
> > > 00:51:09 -
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