On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 08:59:41 +0100
chals <email@example.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Iain R. Learmonth <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> > Hi,
> Reading what you say, and I beg your pardon before going on, I can
> tell that you absolutely have no idea about what the debian live
> project is or about its history. But well, I have to admit that if
> what you say is true, then you have a point.
I've been involved with debian-live before. I remember a meeting with
the live team at a previous debconf (Argentina?) where one of my
previous rootfs build tools [multistrap] was being considered for a
role within live but we didn't find a good match.
> You say "I'm aware that I'm going to be upsetting people, but this has
> been a long time coming"
> Yes you are absolutely right, you are upsetting people, people like me
> who have contributed to debian for years and spent hours of effort to
> make things better.
Sorry, but I'm assuming you don't mean that Iain, Steve or I haven't
spent years contributing and uploading to Debian and years and years of
effort to make Debian better.
> "A long time coming"? Excuse me, but the first thing I've ever heard
> in all these years is that you and I mean you (not the debian cd team,
> who supposedly is responsible for this upheaval)
It is the team. Steve has been asking me for this support in
vmdebootstrap for months and months. Every time there is a release or a
point release, I get more nagging because he has to struggle with
> shows up from out of
> the blue claiming that you have the right to do as you please and
> decide about the future of the debian live team.
Iain is not on his own. This comes from the debian-cd team. Steve has
been nagging me for vmdebootstrap support to replace live-build since
about a week after vmdebootstrap arrived in Debian, certainly before
the Jessie release.
> This is, from my point of view, an act of dictatorship and with my
> authority as a debian user and contributor for years I demand you step
> down from your position and ask for forgiveness to the debian live
> team for being so rude, impolite and not worthy of any more of my
> priceless words and time.
Not going to happen. Just what "authority" is a user meant to have?
Those who do the work in Debian earn the right to make the decisions on
how that work is done in Debian.