Re: Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues
- To: "Iain R. Learmonth" <irl@debian.org>, "Michael ." <keltoiboy@gmail.com>, 804315@bugs.debian.org, Fathi Boudra <fabo@debian.org>, Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org>, Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.com>, Debian-live mailing list <debian-live@lists.debian.org>, VMDebootstrap List <vmdebootstrap-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
- Subject: Re: Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues
- From: Julian Andres Klode <jak@debian.org>
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 00:13:54 +0100
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On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 11:23:10PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 14120 March 1977, Iain R. Learmonth wrote:
> > It is worth noting that live-build is not a Debian project, it is an
> > external project that claims to be an official Debian project. This is
> > something that needs to be fixed.
>
> It is worth noting that you do not declare such things. Such an attitude
> is just plain wrong. It is as official a package in Debian as any other,
> and we have been respectful with namespaces on replacing them. At a
> minimum people got approached before.
Well, people seem to be happy to "invade" other namespaces, just look
at how much packages start with "apt-" ;) [which confuses users, because
they think the APT team is the right team to talk to].
But we don't have the replacement problem, there is no apt-ng package
or similar.
>
> > I'm aware that I'm going to be upsetting people, but this has been a long
> > time coming and I'm not going to spend time bikeshedding over naming.
>
> As an ftpmaster I can tell you that you will have to spend more time on
> bikeshedding over the name. live-build-ng wont fly.
May I suggest debian-cd-live or debian-live-cd as a name? That would
be close in name to debian-cd, highlighting its use case. Or
vmdebootstrap-live if you want to focus on vmdebootstrap name-wise (you
being maintainer here).
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