*To*: debian-legal@lists.debian.org*Subject*: Re: A possible approach in "solving" the FDL problem*From*: "Sergey V. Spiridonov" <sena@hurd.homeunix.org>*Date*: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:37:14 +0200*Message-id*: <[🔎] bhe41a$8va$1@sea.gmane.org>*In-reply-to*: <[🔎] 8765l1k88v.fsf@wasp.nowan.org>*References*: <[🔎] bh6hmf$bdj$1@sea.gmane.org> <[🔎] 20030812030417.GA1679@twcny.rr.com> <[🔎] bha14d$gvj$1@sea.gmane.org> <[🔎] 1060682254.1132.8.camel@arrakis.ens-lyon.fr> <[🔎] bhbcoe$if$1@sea.gmane.org> <[🔎] 1060715426.1142.56.camel@arrakis.ens-lyon.fr> <[🔎] bhbh1n$7ou$1@sea.gmane.org> <[🔎] 1060732005.26001.33.camel@bohr> <[🔎] bhcp7l$rbf$1@sea.gmane.org> <[🔎] 8765l1k88v.fsf@wasp.nowan.org>

Jeremy Hankins wrote:

You recommend that we assign values to all the pros & cons of a particular license, and call free any license in which the positives outweigh the negatives. Am I understanding you correctly?

Yes, exactly.

The problem with this* is that what you're really describing is the utility of the license, which is something completely different from the freedom of it. Take the simple case of a license that pays me to accept it -- it may be non-free in many ways, but a lot of people would probably think the positives (free money) outweigh the negatives (no right to modify or redistribute, for example).

Unfortunately we do not live in the ideal world.

Quote from Fedor Zuev: After all, copyright laws is the only reason for existence of GPL, DFSG, Debian Social Contract and many others tricky and complicated devices for achieving some degree of freedom. -- Best regards, Sergey Spiridonov

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