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Re: OSD && DFSG - different purposes

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Russell Nelson wrote:

> Sam Hartman writes:
>  > >>>>> "Russell" == Russell Nelson <nelson@crynwr.com> writes:
>  > 
>  >     Russell> Why not change the DFSG?
>  > 
>  > Currently we have some organizational issues that make it rather
>  > difficult for us to change the DFSG even if we want to.
> That's an explanation of why it's hard to change the DFSG (thank you
> for writing it), not a reason not to change the DFSG.

It's an explanation of why it's harder than it may seem, and therefore 
would require a benefit beyond "the process can be made clearer" or "it 
would be nice for OSI and Debian to match".  

At this point, I think the best way to approach this might be for OSI to
improve its definition, and then when/if it becomes easier or more
desirable for Debian to change the DFSG there will be a good template to
steal from :)

IMO, convergence isn't a goal in itself, though it's nice to have.  It
seems to me that it would naturally occur as a side-effect of all parties
1) agreeing on the undefinable basis of measurement (i.e. "open source" vs
"free software", "strict definition" vs "consensus flameocracy"); and 2)  
wanting to be clear about their beliefs.

I have no opinion about #1 - I don't know all that much about OSI.  I
think OSI and Debian can and should strive for #2 seperately (and help
each other with suggestions, when asked).

If #2 (which takes years, and never ends) doesn't result in moving closer 
to each other, it may be due to #1.
Mark Rafn    dagon@dagon.net    <http://www.dagon.net/>  

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