Re: Trying Debian?
On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 10:26 -0800, Johan van der Meer wrote:
> Laptop update:
> Well, now i have a Fedora Core 3 distribution on my laptop. I got a
> bit disheartened with the difficulty to install new software, and saw
> that FC3 had an apt-get tool. I tried apt-get on centOS, but it didn't
> work however (dependencies didn't work out).
> Where FC3 falls short (and FC4 too, for that matter...) is the sound.
> The quality of the sound is not as good as it was in centOS, when I
> start up dosbox (an util that lets you play old dos games). Since
> yesterday however, the sound stopped working altogether. Probably it
> had to do with the FD3 Kernel upgrade.
> That leaves me without sound... so I looked up a sound HOWTO that
> deals with recompiling the kernel :-/
> Somehow I was hoping to avoid having to recompile a kernel to make a
> distribution work. That is the reason why I didn't install Debian in
> the first place, thinking it was a tool only for the REAL
> purist-experts, and went with 'easy' distributions such as suse or
> fedora core 4 (both of which do NOT work). :-)
> So the next step is *drum roll* recompiling the kernel and installing
> the sound driver (or module). I have a sound 'Howto' that tells me how
> to do it... With this new skill, hopefully I will have a working
> system... someday.
> However... should I stick to FC3 for now, or should i really go to the
> debian side of linux? Or does the distro not really matter (that
> On 11/25/05, Jiri Svoboda <email@example.com> wrote:
> Johan van der Meer wrote:
> > I have both Knoppix and Kubuntu.
> > Also i've tried CentOS, and it's the only distro that
> actually managed
> > to install itself without hanging up the system. However
> > resolution can't be set right (to 1280x800).
> > I've just tried SuSE 10 :-( After the install, it didn't
> detect the
> > monitor as it should, and now I''m stuck with a black
> screen. Booting
> > failsafe, running yast (the setup tool), and selecting
> 'monitor' also
> > produced a black screen :-/. So much for SuSE. Maybe I'm
> quittng too
> > soon, but i don't really like suse that much, and I was
> willing to
> > give it a shot only if it detected my hardware all in one
> go :-)
> > So now I'm really thinking of going with Debian (and go on
> > adventure...). I've heard from a friend (who is a sysadmin
> and a linux
> > geek, and gave me Kubuntu and Knoppix) that Debian has the
> > software support and online community. Is that true?
> > Should I try out Kubuntu, or Knoppix? I have Kubuntu 5.04
> and Knoppix 3.8
> > Cheers,
> > Johan
> > On 11/23/05, *marc* < firstname.lastname@example.org
> <mailto:email@example.com>> wrote:
> > Johan van der Meer said...
> > > Is it, for someone fairly new to linux, feasable to
> > Debian on
> > > a laptop?
> > It's feasible, and likely to be an adventure.
> > > To give you an idea on how my linux skills are:
> > >
> > > I have an Acer Aspire 1692, and in trying out
> different distro's
> > came
> > > upon the following things:
> > Search for as many howto and install docs for your
> specific model
> > as you
> > can and inwardly digest them.
> > > Would Debian be THE choise for me, or should I rather
> go with
> > SUSE (or
> > > another distribution)?
> > One of the benefits of Debian is that you can take
> advantage of
> > distros
> > built upon Debian. I don't think that I'm alone in using
> Knoppix to
> > assist with installation difficulties. Also handy is
> > One other point, it is likely that you will have to move
> away from
> > stable, which brings with it possible problems of its
> own. With the
> > current state of testing, this might not be a great time
> to start on
> > this adventure.
> > Also, be prepared to compile your own kernel and a few
> > drivers/utilities. You might not need these, but don't
> be surprised if
> > you do.
> > --
> > Best,
> > Marc
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> > Department of Clinical Neurophysiology
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> You can try Kanotix, I was pleased (base: Debian / sid and
> system - Knoppix)
> / Jiri
First, top-posting is frowned upon. That said, I've been using debian
since it *came out*, and would never use anything else on a server. For
my laptop, however, I have just discovered ubuntu, which is essentially
debian with a focus on the desktop/laptop user, and it absolutely rocks.
It discovered my centrino wireless during installation and set my
widescreen resolution (Dell D810) up out of the box. Everything - sound,
usb, wireless, etc. just worked. Definitely the best laptop linux I have
ever used. (and it's still really debian, so I don't feel like a