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Re: kde 3.4 in sid

El Lunes, 4 de Abril de 2005 23:09, David Pastern escribió:
> And x.org has been out for a year now.  If it had been introduced a year

But Sarge should have been released a year ago, more or less. Changing from 
XFree86 to XOrg is absolutely not a trivial change. Just try to compile and 
make work XOrg on one of the not so common architechtures.

> ago, it'd have all (or near all) of the dependency problems and build
> problems most probably sorted out by now.  If Ubuntu can do it, why
> can't Debian is the question that many people, including myself are
> silently asking.  Debian is about the only distro to release with the

I was wondering this question myself, but don't tell us that if you don't like 
the answer, is a wrong answer.

The complexity of Debian, in terms of quality and size, is many times 

> old xfree86 X windowing system.  People are expecting xorg and many
> won't be impressed and will look to other distros.  Debian seems to be
> more and more a distro for developers, than the users, and this isn't
> good.


See number 4.

How to serve the users, is (yes, again) something complex, and there are lots 
of opinions about it. If you have got good ideas about a release cycle well 
suited for desktop users, and for servers sysadmins, please, speak. Some 
release proposals are in the debian wiki.

> > the real problem is not that sarge won't ship kde 3.4 or x.org, but that
> > sarge isn't out *yet*.
> I will say no more, because it will offend people, and i've already been
> told to shut my mouth because it doesn't conform to what the Debian
> developers want to hear.  Tough shit.

If someone told you to shut up, is because Debian developers can be offended 
when you say things without considering *all* the facts, not just the ones 
you are interested in.

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If you are so proud of libranet, why do you care about Debian? Or the problem 
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Disclaimer: I am NOT a Debian developer, so I'm not personally offended by 
your words. However, they can be offensive to people who work very tough in 
Debian, and just as volunteers.

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