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Re: kde 3.4 in sid

On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 17:48 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 17:35, Dennie Bastiaan a écrit :
> > On Monday 04 April 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> > > Hi List,
> > >
> > > Sorry for beeing so annoying,
> >
> > You're not. The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor?)
> > won't include KDE 3.4 is _very_ annoying. I know that a lot of people
> > explained why it is like that, but I see many debian-users around me
> > who find it very annoying also. And I cannot see why it is so hard to
> > include x.org before sarge goes stable. It isn't called "unstable"
> > for no reason. I'm not alone. You're not alone.
> well, sarge *should* be out. and we cannot delay it once more. and 
> adding x.org will need to make it stable on all archs, and then resolve 
> all compile problems it will generate, and so on.
> we don't have time for this.

And x.org has been out for a year now.  If it had been introduced a year
ago, it'd have all (or near all) of the dependency problems and build
problems most probably sorted out by now.  If Ubuntu can do it, why
can't Debian is the question that many people, including myself are
silently asking.  Debian is about the only distro to release with the
old xfree86 X windowing system.  People are expecting xorg and many
won't be impressed and will look to other distros.  Debian seems to be
more and more a distro for developers, than the users, and this isn't

> please don't forget that x.org, kdelibs, ... are used by *many* 
> packages, and that changing them, may need a new build of all of them, 
> and can generate new security/rc bugs.
> the real problem is not that sarge won't ship kde 3.4 or x.org, but that 
> sarge isn't out *yet*.

I will say no more, because it will offend people, and i've already been
told to shut my mouth because it doesn't conform to what the Debian
developers want to hear.  Tough shit.


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