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Re: kde 3.4 in sid

On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 03:57 +1000, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * Dennie Bastiaan [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:08:42 +0200]:
> > I think you misunderstood me there. I actually meant including x.org in 
> > unstable, before sarge goes stable. I know that sarge isn't unstable 
> > (actually sid is), since I've been a debian user for three years now. :)
>   I understand what you say, but the thing is that the Release Managers
>   request that developers only upload to unstable what is really meant
>   to migrate to testing. In other words, uploading something to unstable
>   means that your goal is to get it into sarge.
>   So, for things not intended for sarge, unstable is not ok, and
>   experimental or some external repository must be used.

Yes, but if that's the case, why no kde 3.4, gnome 2.10 or xorg in
experimental then?  By the time sarge releases it will already be six
months, if not longer, outdated.  That doesn't bode well.  

I find some of the posts from others on these lists (including
developers) downright offensive and arrogant.  It's the same old "fuck
you, piss off we don't care" attitude and it's not going to win Debian
any friends.  If developers cease to listen to their users, they will
find that their users move on to greener pastures.  I did so quite some
time ago,  both Ubuntu, Kanotix and Libranet kick Debian's ass all over
the place, why use Debian?  This is what many are contemplating.  Sorry
to sound rude, but i'm finding it's necessary to become blunt with thick
or uncaring developers.

>   Hope this clears up things a bit.

Not really, it makes excuses, nothing more and nothing less.


> -- 
> Adeodato Simó
>     EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621
> You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd.

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