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Re: Java plugin advocacy



Robert Bihlmeyer wrote:
> 
> Rick Lutowski <rick@jreality.com> writes:
> > Why have browsers been stuck at 1.1 for years?  Just a wild
> > guess, but might it have something to do with MS stopping Java
> > support with 1.1, and also controlling 80% of the browser market?
> 
> It could also be because the perceived benefit for the user is not as big

For 80% of the browser base, it's Microsoft that's doing the
perceiving re the benefit of Java 2.


> as you think. Users *are* installing add-ons for flash and other crap.

Only the more technically savvy ones.  The majority of users
don't know what a plug-in is and/or couldn't care less.  That's
why any technology based on plug-ins will never reach the
majority.  For something to be widely useful in a browser it
has to be pre-installed by the vendor.


> So go ahead and use it on your site. You'd better make it optional,
> though -- but this is good advice for almost any web technology
> (scripting, css, mathml, ...).

If it can be optional, then it can't be critical.  So maybe the
site should not bother with it at all -- just use the 'low tech'
backup technology instead.   Something 'high tech' like flash or
Java3D that is critical to the site cannot be marked optional,
e.g., a 3D gaming site can't very well make 3D optional!

However, you point is well taken, because most sites that use
flash etc CAN make them optional, which implies they should
take it out entirely (i.e., 'high tech' web solutions are
being misused for the most part).  That doesn't mean scrap the
high tech or leave it out of the browser, it means sites need
to be designed more intelligently.

Rick
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