Re: Content Filtering
Craig Sanders wrote:
Freely taking lots of people's hard work on Squid and then disrespecting
it and the people working on it to sell a product and trying to act like
the product isn't based on Squid, instead of being open/honest about the
resulting commercial product being a derivative of the original, isn't
taken well by most people in the community, Squid developers, packagers,
users, or otherwise.
ah. ok. so "safesquid" is based on squid, as in a derivative of the
squid source code? are you sure? i didn't realise that. they go to some
length to hide it, and the original claim by "Sean" on this list was
that it wasn't open source but that they have a crippled free version.
Actually, I'm sorry - I have no direct evidence of that. I am making an
assumption, that may be inaccurate.
do they actually offer or provide source code to their customers?
If they ARE based on Squid, they have to by law... of course... but with
what I just sent, who knows?
if not, then they are violating the terms of squid's license (GPL v2 or
later).
Yep.
i've searched the squid mailing lists and can't see any discussion
of safesquid. a few user questions asking about it, but no answers.
Fair enough.
safesquid also seems to be integrated with other GPL-licensed programs
(incl. clamav and mysql). if they distribute them together with
safesquid, then that is more than just an aggregation as mentioned in
clause 2 of the GPLv2 (and clause 5 of the GPLv3), and they are also
violating the license terms of those programs. mysql are particularly
keen on enforcing their license terms.
Definitely. Especially now that they're owned by Oracle, who's created
an empire by heavily protecting their proprietary technology.
this, of course, also applies to squid. if safesquid isn't actually
a derivative of squid (i can't tell for sure, their web site doesn't
say), then it is still bound by the GPL if they distribute it along with
squid....just like mysql & clamav (but even more so), it's too tightly
integrated with squid to be a mere aggregation on the same distribution
media.
Uh-huh... yup.
the GPL Violations people may be able to help with all of that.
http://www.gpl-violations.org/
Wouldn't want to "go there" without proof... hard to get proof, but
maybe some smart folks can tell by the behavior of SmartSquid. Who
knows. Crazier things have happened...
ps: i've got a particular interest in and fondness for squid. i've been
using it for 12+ years, and i was the person who first packaged it for
debian back in 1996.
Cool, thanks for doing that! I've used it on and off for about that
long so I've probably benefited from your work at some point in the
past, or present!
Nate
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