On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 07:18:33AM +0700, Javier SOLA wrote:
> Michael Bramer wrote:
>
> >I like to setup a pootle test server (cvs version) for the translation
> >of the debian package descriptions.
> >We have >10000 pot-files for the debian package description. We will
> >get >180000 po files with the 18 languages.
> Grisu,
>
> This is a very interesting challenge.
>
> So far we have thought of a hierarchical structure of files in Pootle. For example, We can have
>
> Folder Debian
> Folder French
> Folder Debian Installer
> Folder level 1 ------ po files
> .........
> Package descriptions
> .....
> Folder Khmer
> ....
> Folder OpenOffice
> .....
>
> Having 10,000 packages without structure (in the same folder)
> requires a different type of interface, we cannot just list all the
> files in a folder and show their percentage of translation, or
> calculate on the fly the total percentage of translation in the
> folder (search 10,000 files), we have to specify an interface that
> will allow the users to go directly to a specific package, or to a
> partial listing that contains that package. Or maybe I am wrong and
> there is a structure?
yes, we need some structure. We use in Debian something like
this in general (per Source-package):
a/
b/
c/
d/
...
l/
liba/
libb/
libc/
...
libz/
m/
...
z/
see http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/ as example
is it a problem to put the po/xliff files in this structure and
generate the stats per subdir and a overview?
maybe something like this:
- Folder Debian
- Folder Debian Installer
- Folder level 1
- pot/po files (all languages)
- Folder level 2
- pot/po files (all languages)
- Package descriptions
- a
- a2ps-perl-ja
- pot/po files (all languages)
- a2ps
- pot/po files
- ...
- b
- ...
- NEWS
- a
- a2ps-perl-ja
- ...
- ...
IMHO this is a the structure, that we should use for all package based
translations in Debian.
maybe some counters:
- 10000 base source packges with >1 Description
- 800 packages with a NEWS.Debian files [1]
- 900 packages with debconf templates files [2]
- 58000 man pages [3]
- 3200 debian web pages [4]
- 800 normal po files [5]
- ??? debian manuals/guides/...
- ??? info pages
and we have 13-65 languages ... This is a lot of work and we will only
start with some of this. But the new system should handle this work in
the future.
> Also, it might be interesting to wait until Pootle is working
> internally with XLIFF files (next month) to test it, because then we
> will have a very clear idea of the real performance, and this will
> point very clearly at what needs to be improved (or modified). The
> present version (0.9) uses PO internally. The new one will use XLIFF
> internally, but will allow download and upload of PO files that are
> generated on the fly from the XLIFF file, or merged into the XLIFF
> files.
ok, nice.
When ist 'next month'? 1.6. oder 1.7.2006? :-)
Did you have a timeline?
[1] $ zgrep -i usr/share/doc.*/NEWS.Debian /var/cache/apt/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_Contents-i386.gz | wc -l
885
[2] $ grep Depends:.*debconf /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages | wc -l
908
[3] $ zgrep man/man[123456789]/ /var/cache/apt/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_Contents-i386.gz | wc -l
58844
[4] http://www.debian.org/devel/website/stats/
[5] $ w3m -cols 200 -dump http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po/fr | grep % | wc -l
853
Gruss
Grisu
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