Re: Hurd and the archive

[Peter Andersson <peter@kahn.nu>]

Sorry to clutter the mailing list. 
But as a long time lurker at the mailing list I would just like to thank the "Hurd team" for all your efforts! 
@Samuel, I totally agree with you on your points. 
I have been happily running Hurd on my (reasonably new) core 2 computer for a year. It wasn't harder to install than a standard linux distribution. If you can accept installing via a curses based interface. 
As I have understood it the Linux kernel starts to become much like Microsoft Windows. Just patch after patch on basically the same base. With better distribution this will attract more devs, get better hardware support and grow into something great! With a new  foundation, not being locked to old practices (yet). 
It just seems counter productive to rely on a small team of devs to do the same work as the "huge" team that Debian/Linux has at its disposal at the moment before supporting them. The Hurd team will never keep up and be able to add more features. 
Whenever you install an open source distribution you better check your hardware specs. And no matter if you run linux or Hurd, there is always something not working as expected! That's just how things are and have been for the last fifteen years (since I started using linux). 
Just my two cents, (which I know count for nothing). 
Anyway, keep up the good work hurd-guys! 
/Peter

Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> wrote:

Neil McGovern, le Wed 08 May 2013 11:35:52 +0100, a écrit :
About disk support, I happen to have right now a few days of holiday
with no RL plans (at last!), so I'll work on the SATA driver. Having it
working within a month should just happen.

But not tested - how about USB - did that ever get sorted?

We have not worked on it.

How about things like wireless drivers, raid controllers,
suspend/resume, power management etc?

There are some wireless dr
 ivers
for pcmcia cards (e.g. orinoco,
hermes). No raid support. No suspend/resume or power management.

I'm wondering: if I had spent time on these instead of working on
Wheezy, I guess people wouldn't have been happy either. I wonder what I
should have done at all.

And when these get implemented, I guess we'll be asked for 3D
acceleration, backlight tuning, memory hotplug, etc. etc.?

d) VMWare/VBox etc.

This already works.

Just tried it with vbox - as soon as I selected 'text install', I got a
"critical error" and the vm stopped.
 
I
don't have this issue at all, things just go fine here with both the
other/other template and the Linux/Linux template. This message comes
from vbox I guess (there is no such message in Mach or the Hurd), so I'd
tend to think virtualbox has some issues in your setup.

For something to be accepted in testing, it should be in a releaseable
state.

Which we haven't seen very precisely defined still. Or at least we have
this criterium:

“Are machines available to buy for the general public?”

Which I believe is fullfiled.

Samuel

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