Am 12.09.2013 14:00, schrieb Jean-Christophe Dubacq: > Le 11/09/2013 14:02, Michael Biebl a écrit : >> Also, the situation around systemd is not fully sorted yet. >> First, we need a newer systemd version, which is currently in >> experimental only (also waiting for a transition slot ), and then >> there is the problem, that working power management requires systemd to >> be PID 1. That's going to cause problems which we haven't addressed yet. >> >> So, you see, it's not like we are sitting on our lazy asses, it's just a >> lot of work and coordination efforts. > > > Thanks for the various updates, you and all the contributors to this > thread. Thanks also for all the work: I am a happy user of gnome3 and I > do not regret the gnome2 days like many others do. > > This was not natural that gnome-panel package had to go in the new > gnome. Removing gnome-core seemed a bit too much to me, too. I am still > ready to try it out, as soon as I have enough time before me. Well, experimental is just that: experimental. You need to expect breakage. That gnome-panel hasn't been updated for e-d-s 3.5.3 is one of those breakages. We'll try to keep gnome-panel/metacity alive for the time being and offer that as separate session. We will basically have a/ GNOME - GNOME Shell b/ GNOME Classic - new classic mode of GNOME Shell . Unfortunately uses the same name as we used for fallback mode in wheezy c/ GNOME Flashback - session consisting of gnome-panel and metacity (and various other bits like polkit-gnome, nm-applet, notification-daemon). Doesn't require 3D. It's more or less the old Fallback mode  We'll see how maintainable c/ will be in the long run. There's a good chance that we can offer this option for jessie, but beyond that, I don't know. Michael  http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/a-quick-look-at-new-gnome-classic.html  https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointSeven/Features/DropOrFixFallbackMode -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth?
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