Am 11.09.2013 12:57, schrieb Emilio Pozuelo Monfort: > On 11/09/13 12:41, Johannes Rohr wrote: >> And I really don't get what is still holding up GNOME 3.8. > > Right now it's the evolution-data-server transition, which is being worked on. > After that happens, it'll probably be time to get mutter, gnome-shell, g-s-d, > g-c-c and so into unstable, bringing the last few bits of G3.8 there. And then, > we can start getting 3.10 in, hopefully much faster this time. Yeah, after evo/eds, we probably should do the rest together in one go. There is still some unsorted stuff though, like most of the NetworkManager integration patches (to support user session connections or make NM optional on !Linux) have been dropped in experimental. Someone needs to work on those patches before we can move gnome-shell and g-c-c to unstable. Also, the situation around systemd is not fully sorted yet. First, we need a newer systemd version, which is currently in experimental only (also waiting for a transition slot ), and then there is the problem, that working power management requires systemd to be PID 1. That's going to cause problems which we haven't addressed yet. So, you see, it's not like we are sitting on our lazy asses, it's just a lot of work and coordination efforts. Michael  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=717418 -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth?
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