Re: GNOME 2.12

[Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr>]

On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 04:00:28PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote:
>         Hi,
> 
> On Sun, Oct 02, 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
> > BTW, i hear t-p-u is finally unfucked (but then maybe i am misinformed), so
> > would this not be the time to upload 2.6.12 to unstable, work on the etch
> > 2.6.10 version through t-p-u, and so finally find out if t-p-u is a useful
> > thing or just some vaporware that nobody is ever going to use ?
> 
>  (2.6.12?  2.6.10?  Are these kernels?  I suppose you mean G2.10/2.12.)

Argh, .... :)

Yeah, i mean 2.10 and 2.12.

>  No, TPU isn't meant for complex changes.  For example you can't rework
>  your packages and upload them to TPU, they wouldn't get the testing
>  they need.  And I'd certainly not use TPU to maintain the whole GNOME
>  suite for etch and maintain another suite in unstable; what exactly do
>  you think unstable is for?

Well, we will decidedly not ship 2.10 as part of etch, so the only reason to
keep it around is to keep testing users happy during the transition phase, and
maybe a fallback for sid users in case of excess breakage during the new 2.12
transition.

It was my impression from previous mails here, that 2.10 in etch was almost
there, and there where only a couple of packages missing or something, which
could well have been uploaded throught t-p-u. But maybe my understanding is
flawed, and i didn't look in detail though.

>  I really don't see how you imagine TPU should work with 2.10/2.12, if
>  we were to upload G2.12 right now, I'd made sure it can transition
>  immediately to testing unless some new bugs are encountered.

Yeah, t-p-u was only there to put aside any arguments against uploading 2.12
right now :) A fallback if there is only minor work being done on 2.10, or to
handle upcoming bugs that absolutely need fixing.

I still feel that any work on 2.10 now is going to be obsoleted by a futur
2.12 upload, and thus not worth it, unless it is really very few things
missing and they can and will be done in short order, but if we are going to
wait an indifinite time for random transition and blockages, i would go with
2.12 asap.

But i am not the gnome team, and can thus only offer my opinion, and may have
missed some serious problems or otherwise misunderstood the problem, i just
wanted to say that t-p-u could be a solution if 2.10 is almost fully in etch
and only a few bits are missing.

Friendly,

Sven Luther