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Re: ldap: ou=group versus ou=groups



Hi Petter, hi Andi,

Am Dienstag, 15. Februar 2011, 11:18:25 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen:

> > I cannot imagine that using ou=group or ou=groups makes any
> > difference for storing our possix groups, but from what I have seen,
> > it looks as if using ou=groups is more common and the linguistic
> > correct form.
> 
> How do you determine that ou=groups is more common?

All other ous are in plural form, only the ou=group looks misspelled... (and I 
no about that old RFC which did the original misspelling...).
 
> At the University of Oslo, cn=filegroups and cn=netgroups are used.
> The former represent the cn=group subtree in Skolelinux.  In
> db.debian.org, file groups are stored in the ou=users subtree.  Those
> where the LDAP instances I had easily available.  Anyone else have
> other data points?
>

I only have LDAP trees available that I set up by myself. I always dropped 
ou=group and replaced it by ou=groups as it seems more plausible to use 
plural.

> > What do you think?
> 
> I believe we should leave it unchanged unless we have a good reason to
> change it.

Anyway, GOsa has its own way of structuring LDAP (that's why GOsa in 
Skolelinux requires an LDAP-migration tool that is customized for the old 
lwat-based LDAP-DIT. My suggestion is to handle LDAP-stuff like GOsa proposes 
it. LDAP DIT has to be changed for GOsa anyway (part of the discussion in 
Zweibrücken), thus I recommend using the standard GOsa way (where the 
department ous are optional and should not be configured with standard 
Skolelinux, also part of the discussion in the Distro).

dc=<base-dn>
 |
 |--ou=<department-1>
 |   |
 |   |--ou=people
 |   |
 |   |--ou=groups
 |   |
 |   `--ou=systems
 |   
 |--ou=<department-2>
 |   |
 |   |--ou=people
 |   |
 |   |--ou=groups
 |   |
 |   `--ou=systems
 |--ou=<department-3>
 |   |
 |   |--ou=people
 |   |
 |   |--ou=groups
 |   |
 |   `--ou=systems
 |
 |--ou=people
 |
 |--ou=groups
 |
 `--ou=systems


One suggestion also was to disable the department-ous in GOsa for standard 
Skolelinux distribution and document how to re-enable it in case you want to 
setup a bigger site than a normal school.

Andi proposed to setup ,,deparment-ous'' for students and teachers already as 
a default Skolelinux setup (as currently provided in Debian Edu). I also like 
this idea, but maybe for non-LDAP-gurus this might already be too much. 
However, GOsa has a fine way of presenting the ou-structure in the GUI...

Sorry for running a little off-topic...
Mike


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