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Re: debian-edu + edubuntu?

Hi Nigel,

Am Mittwoch 21 November 2007 schrieb nigel barker:
> I used edubuntu for a while before etch. The application software was
> much better. 

May I replace "better" by "more recent"? Or could you otherwise explain, 
what was better?

> Since etch its the same, but edubuntu seems to have 
> sound working more often on the thin clients. Plus usb drives pop up
> on the desktop rather than having to be sought - good for primary
> kids (that might be a kde - gnome thing is it?)

This is better hardware support out of the box? Plus Gnome (matter of 
taste) having (at least in the past) better udev/hal support for USB 

The nice thing about free and open interfaces is that you can chose 
whatever you like most in each position. One of Skolelinux's strenghths 
is that it provides an all-in-one system. That's just perfect for 
schools where there is no experienced GNU/Linux administrator.

But we also make use of (even closed) interfaces when we try to 
integrate Windows clients (using Samba). As long as Ubuntu or whatever 
distribution follows the interfaces provided by our tjener, why should 
we object against integrating whatever machine?

Open interfaces bear the chance to optimize each profile (Main Server, 
Workstation, Terminalserver) - one could even consider to split into 
seperate distributions. In the end it has to be re-evaluated if there 
is more costs of fraction or rather profits from synergy. 

I like the idea of Skolelinux to have all in one, many maintainance (of 
code but also of the system) can be minimized this way. But I also 
understand the efforts some people make to optimize a distribution for 
a single task (like myth-TV). 

For those who want the newest apps on their desktop (schools tend to 
prefer stability), we could possibly provide some early pre-releases of 
Debian-Edu Lenny. 

Just a few thoughts on this
Ralf (using backports for the same effect)

P.S.: As for the edUbuntu question: I can understand any criticism - 
and, yes, there is a lot of work done twice. But in the end, *buntu 
sells (not only on DELLs) - and we should not "salt" our criticism with 
envy. Very ambivalent topic - no consent in sight. In a talk held by 
Oliver Grawert on Edubuntu during LinuxTag 2006, Oliver (major 
developer of Edubuntu) started refering to Skolelinux as the "S-Class" 
of school servers). So, they are still "after us". As we have an 
agreement of cooperation, we should be able to settle down apt 
interfaces. And some of "our" applications (e.g. Stopmotion) should 
consider to reference "Skolelinux" directly within their info dialogue.

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