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Re: removable packages.

On Thursday 12. July 2007 14:12, nigel barker wrote:
> I'd like to add a vote for vim. As very low power admin I use it all the
> time, locally and over ssh. Its the one I learned when studying for LPI
> cert, and I imagine there must be a lot of others like me.

I've heard reports from a Taiwanese Linux User Groups trying to learn new 
beginners Apache configuration on Linux. First they start editing files with 
gedit. That worked. Then they suddenly switching to vi. Instead of learning 
Apache things, they got their hand full with new commands in vi. The new 
users lost track of Apache ...

A lot of schools has installed Skolelinux as a one school only solution, 
maintained by only one person - most likely the science teacher. They are 
most familiar with Windows. They got a job as a maintainers because they 
helped their headmasters finding a lost file on his or here Windows box. This 
science teachers are really uncertain when it comes to the command line. They 
will probably switch to Windows if we introduces them to vi. 

Thats why I got objection against getting vi or even emacs in. And my 
preference is emacs, so that should be included too. But from my experiences 
with schools I don't think they needs this tools. And If I need emacs it's an 
aptget away. Else I just use pico for simple editing. 

On the other side, I really want Skolelinux to expand into universities, 
colleges and secondary schools when they got courses in Linux and 
programming. Making developer tools and open courseware "out of the box" for 
this groups. Some schools already uses Skolelinux to teach network and 
other "LPI" stuff. The reason is that they get a fully functional network out 
of the box, and easilly can start adjustments and additions to something that 
works, instead of using 3-4 weeks to get RedHat up and running. 

So my 2 cents for this realease is to fucuse on pupils and teachers not 
interested in LPI cert. People interested in LPI should just do an aptitude 
install <list of LPI packages>. A teacher don't know this things initially. 

Best regards 

Knut Yrvin

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