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Re: Possibility to add gwenview, krita, kdict, and enable Java in browsers?

[José L. Redrejo Rodríguez]
> I don't remember if at IRC or via email I suggest that in a kde profile
> it should be kdegames|gnome-games not gnome-games. Gnome-games is there
> as it was before in education-logic-games (even in sarge it's in that
> pacakage). 

[Knut Yrvin]
My apologies. Sorry for keeping you responsible for this, that you were not!

> In fact I'm  not in favour of adding any kind of games unless 
> they have a strong educative part (as gnuchess or similar). I don't like
> kdegames nor gnome-games as they mix logical games with some not very
> right games for schools.

Thank you for making this clear. I think that my inncorrect suggestion brought 
up good requirement, focusing on educational needs. If a game don't 
introduces pedagogic value, it should be optionall. Then we can put card 
games as poker and blackjack distributed, but not installed from the DVD. 

Actually that was Petter and mine objection at the Edubuntu gathering in 
London summer of 2005. One of the Edubuntu developers said every 
edu-application should be gnome-based. We objected saying that every 
application should be included for its educational merit, disregarding which 
developer environment used to make that application. Richard Weideman has 
pointed at the same. He is Education Programme Manager at Canonical: 


There are an objection against blending educational programs made with 
different libraries thou. When running KDE apps on Gnome they stands out Jono 
Bacon says. He is Community Manager for Ubuntu. 

I think the Portland initiative from Linux Foundation solves most of 
the "standing out" issue. New versions of different developer libraries now 
inherent native look and feel from different desktops. If next version of 
Skolelinux introduces KDE4 apps and next version of Gnome, decoration and 
behavioural issues will be fixed. 

I see that Petter has put things in motion: 

[Petter Reinholdtsen]
> The individual games we want from these metapackages
> should be listed specificly in the relevant task.

Best regards

Knut Yrvin
Skolelinux project manager Norway

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