El mar, 30-01-2007 a las 19:40 +0100, RalfGesellensetter escribió: > Am Montag 29 Januar 2007 09:32 schrieb José L. Redrejo Rodríguez: > > You could get more info on our work at: > > http://linex.educarex.es/ > > http://www.educarex.es/linexcolegios/ > > http://www.linex.org/ > > > > I'm afraid these pages are only in spanish. > > Dear José, > > thanks for those links. I do read a little bit of Spanish, but I feel > that the arguements for the LinEx project should be made availble on a > more international level. > I don't understand what you mean. DebianEdu is a international level. More than enough for me, at least at the technical layer. > For the same reason I wonder, if you do know the EURONEWS report on > Extremadura/LinEx? I have a Spanish copy, and together with Pablo Pita, > started subtitling - until we ended up in hundreds of strings that > still need to be allocated to time frames... Maybe the municipality of > Extremadura (or even you) has copies of this spot in multiple languages > (as EURONEWS usually localizes all their coverage to different > tongues)? > yes, ;-) I know the report, in fact you can watch me speaking at 1'20" in the video. We have it translated in some languages (portuguese, german, spanish, french, english and italian), you can take a look at: http://www.linex.org/linex2/euro-n/ > As for Gambas, BTW: could you possibly point me to its BTS? I started > using it in class today - and my kids loved it! Just the sample > applications should be able to run in write protected mode (otherwise > it is tricky to locate them for cloning). > There is no BTS, all the bugs are discussed through the mailing list, as you can check at http://gambas.sourceforge.net/tr-report.html About what you say, it's hard to be fixed: gambas needs to compile the sources before executing the examples, but , as definition, gambas always writes the compiled files in the same directory the sources are, in a hidden directory called .gambas. As part of the Gambas policy, all the files must be in the same directory: sources, images, etc. For the examples you can copy the directory to your home and execute them from it. The problem you've found could be my fault, as I maintain the packages in Debian. Gambas makefiles compile the examples, and in the past I included the binaries in the gambas-doc package, and you could execute the examples from /usr/share/gambas/examples as they didn't need to be compiled. But having compiled files in the /usr/share/xxx directory is not a good thing for the Debian policy, so I patch the makefiles to avoid the binaries to be included in the package. The result is that you can load, see and dig into the examples but need to copy them to a directory with writing permissions to be able to modify or execute it. Anyway, you can go to the gambas-devel mailing list trying to force the compiler to compile in a temporary directory if it can not do it in the sources dir, but I'm afraid that option will be hardly accepted by the main upstream author. And for your kids, gambas could be a really good option, as you get quick results easily, and students like to see a graphic application soon, not after months of console compilations. The current IDE (1.9.47 version) is probably one of the best IDE in the free source world, And if you use it to teach programming, you can take your students from the old basic to OOP using the same environment. Regards. José L.
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