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Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues



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On 1/1/20 11:02 pm, Andrej Shadura wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 12:40, Andrew McGlashan
> <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:
>> reasonable stakeholders, it is very limited to a small group of
>> Debian users known collectively as DDs .. the current "gods" of
>> Debian whom have ultimate power to do good or do bad with or for
>> the project. [Such] Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts
>> absolutely.
>
> You’re most obviously trolling. You clearly understand there has to
> be a way to limit the number of people taking the decision and the
> period of voting to prevent vote manipulations. I don’t believe you
> don’t understand everyone can become a DD, but it’s the DDs who do
> the majority of meaningful work in Debian.

Wrong, I absolutely hate posting to any Debian list atm, not only
because my point of view is too often ignored by those that should be
most interested, but due to how DMARC settings mean that I'll get
loads of reports due to how DMARC works with Debian lists at this
time.  So, if I post to Debian it is not to troll and I would never
have that intent; it is to allow a possible alternative view that is
valid to be able to be aired to those that really do matter... the
users (collectively), of Debian -- in this case though, it is being
limited to those in the one particular list that is debian-devel ...
so it may mostly fall on deaf ears.  It's no good preaching to the
converted, unless there is a conscious and a will to do better.

I hope that out of this will come a more reasonable method to properly
determine the best way forward for the Debian project, which effects
Devuan that I have chosen to move forward with.  Devuan gives back to
Debian and that is great, but it cannot be fully self supported, it
needs to rely upon Debian -- so what Debian does, by whatever process,
has direct relevance not only to those users of Debian (far more than
the DDs here), but also to every other distro that also relies upon
Debian to be a good upstanding distro that has continuing value to
entire community [for Debian and beyond, go Buz Lightyear] and not
just the DDs themselves.

Kind Regards
AndrewM
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