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Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?



On 2019-08-07 18:51, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
On 2019-08-07 10:19:00 +0200 (+0200), Marc Haber wrote:
On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 22:29:41 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
[...]
> I'd still expect a Cloud/Compute provider to offer default
> images in any case that could be preconfigured appropriately.

I am one of those customers who almost never uses the images
offered by the hoster whereever this is possible. Guilty as
charged, your honor.
[...]

As soon as you start depending on multiple providers to spread out
the risk for your workloads, it almost becomes a necessity to bring
your own images if you want to be able to build consistent systems
across disparate providers. Even if they haven't unnecessarily
tampered with official distro images themselves, there's no
guarantee that the Debian images they offer are for the same point
releases/snapshot dates and so on.

Yeah, and that's fair. But as you professionalize that arrangement and mature the offering, you also end up finding all these kinds of fixes yourself to optimize your infrastructure. Probably around the same time where you are thinking about your own Debian image release pipeline.

Although I have to say that I find it annoying that every sysadmin out there needs to learn these things (and also the whole "what are all the bits you need to remove from an image" from a different thread) the hard way. Yes, it's a way to make us all individually more valuable but maintaining something on best practices on how to maintain a Debian desktop, laptop, or server would be great.

Kind regards
Philipp Kern


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