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Re: Raising the problem of Debian Single Sign On + Alioth (again)

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 07:24:02PM +0000, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 08:17:26PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Feb 2018, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> > > Like it or not Alioth provides more services than just hosting
> > > repositories. One of these is authentication. Enrico has made a
> > > concerted effort to work out how Salsa can be used in a similar manner
> > > as Alioth to provide that authentication behaviour, with as little
> > > effort on the part of all concerned as possible, and your response is
> > > that you don't want Salsa to be used for that.
> > > 
> > > This is absolutely the Salsa team's choice to make, but you have to
> > > accept that as a result once Alioth is turned off there will be no way
> > > for prospective DMs or DDs to authenticate to nm.debian.org.
> > thats nonsense. alioth clearly showed that in the past, noone knows that
> > better than me. Because we would have to support it. 
> > 
> > > The attitude of "well nothing to do with us, the NM team should sort it
> > > out" is not appreciated.
> > Thats nonsense, I am working on an sso replacement for some time, since
> > nobody stepped in when we asked for it. 
> Make up your mind. Either "then the DD process should be fixed" (as you
> wrote above) or we need an SSO replacement. If the latter then I think
> everyone is in full agreement and I appreciate the fact you're working
> on it.

Yes, we agreement that it was no so wise to put many many services on Alioth.
There is a dutch proverbe saying "avoid putting all eggs in the same basket".
I think we have learned that at server level. Next step would be at people level.

The challenge that we, Debian project, have is
allowing persons to make mistakes, to learn  and get at a level as formorer is.

Geert Stappers
Leven en laten leven

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