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Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?



Hi!

 I'm wondering here... Lets suppose I NEED to use sysvinit, with Debian 8.

 If so, can I just run: `apt-get install sysvinit-core` to get rid of systemd as my INIT?

 If yes, will this be support until... Let's say, Debian kFreeBSD still remains around...?

 Also, why not have a system like "/etc/alternatives", or "dpkg-reconfogure alt-init" (just like "dpkg-reconfigure gdm/kdm"),so people can still choose between sysvinit / systemd as their default INIT? Maybe during install time!?

 Listen, I'm not a systemd-hater (or lover) but, I'm just saying that, for safety, I think we need to keep `sysvinit-core` working until ~2020. Just in case... I'm not saying NO to systemd, I'm just saying, not now (specially if it if brings some level of instability here and there)...

 Long life to Debian / Ubuntu!

 BTW, my first message to this list...   :-)

Thanks!
Thiago


On 3 September 2014 06:34, Rens Houben <shadur@systemec.nl> wrote:
In other news for Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 11:11:30AM +0200, Svante Signell has been seen typing:

> Some food for thought about systemd:

... I thought we'd all agreed to stop bringing up tired arguments that
nobody but the "systemd MUST DIE" crowd really wants to hear anymore.

> You might have seen this http://ewontfix.com/14
> but have you seen this http://ewontfix.com/15
> or this http://boycottsystemd.org/

"Open source Tea Party". That explains *so* much...

> Having a systemd-free option for Debian Jessie is becoming more and more
> important. Otherwise (Debian) users might do as recommended in the third
> link: Boycott distros that use systemd.

"If we keep systemd, people who want to boycott systemd will boycott
us." Seriously, can we stop with the circular arguments as well?

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