Re: Please assume good faith (was Re: systemd effectively mandatory now due to GNOME)
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:02:00AM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> > I'm fed up with repeated attempts to force components on the rest of the
> > system, but that's mostly a fault of Gnome's upstream
> There seems to be a trend emanating from packages involving RedHat devs.
> I actually went to the RedHat site a few weeks ago to try and get some
> sort of oversight on this but there seemed to be no appropriate contact
> point (bookmarked).
There are various maintainers+developers who would love to see GNOME
support Wayland and nothing more. This due to code complexity and test
matrix (too many different options and it becomes difficult to test
things). And we do do continuous integration, plus I had to deal with
the bugs caused by the introduction of Wayland support.
Various of above mentioned maintainers/developers are sponsored by Red
Hat. I say sponsored because they pretty much do what they think is
good. I have not seen any corporate agenda (I also fail to understand
why we have so many of them). Anyway, they just don't want code
The *main* reason that GNOME will keep Wayland + X compatibility for a
long time, thus introducing more bugs and slowing down full Wayland
support, is the same GNOME release team person who urged to support
Wayland. He's sponsored by Red Hat.
In brief: The person mainly responsible for allowing people to rely on
our X support for a much longer time is one of those Red Hat people.
Not sure if you like Wayland or not, but something to keep in mind, if
it wasn't up to this Red Hat person, X support would be die much more
quickly. And this decision is not made due to forcing, it is to due
supporting one thing well, not multiple things a bit with various
degrees of testing and buggyness.