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Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 02:25:52 +0100
md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri) wrote:

I'm not taking a stance on the wider issue, just wanted to comment on
these two points.

> On Mar 06, Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> wrote:
> > > Should Debian reject using <any widely deployed and important
> > > system 
> > > component> just to support toy ports which are used by a dozen of
> > > component> people?
> > Except that kFreeBSD is not a toy port.
> > 
> > FreeBSD is a serious operating system that is used by many people in
> > system-critical applications, which runs on modern hardware and
> > outperforms the hell of Linux in some regards.
> Let's accept that this is true for the sake of the argument.
> Still, the kFreeBSD ports are not FreeBSD. They have 106 systems 
> reporting to popcon, compared to 120000 Linux systems just for amd64
> and i386.
> With such a users base you do not dictate developement of an OS which
> has 1000 times more users: you do your best to not stand in the way
> if you want a future.

I'm reminded of this thread [1] over the s390 port. Popcon isn't
accurate. Its numbers can't be relied on.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/09/msg00078.html

> > The kFreeBSD port has some features over Linux that makes it an
> > interesting option for some use cases, such as ZFS, jails, and more.
> Which, which very good approximation, nobody uses.
> And let's not forget that there has been no real stable release yet.

The lack of a stable release (where this means 'shipped as a full
release arch for Debian') will be another factor in the popcon score:
The appearance that its not yet ready for use.


Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK7FOSS)
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