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Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version



I have a few questions.  First, to repeat the original question, will
we be seeing Upstart 1.4 in Debian experimental or unstable?

Second, I would be interested in reading a good technical comparison
of Upstart and systemd.  Does anyone have a URL for me?

I know the System V init system fairly well but I am new to both
Upstart and systemd. Obviously the two are similar insofar as they are
both able to supersede SysV init.  But my newbie impression is that
the two are fundamentally different, Upstart being event-oriented and
Systemd state-oriented from the user's point of view.  So the choice
between the two isn't just a matter of taste.  Analogy: We want to
rewrite an ancient line-numbered BASIC program and now have a choice
between Python and Prolog.  One of the two languages is likely to be
better suited to the task at hand.  Which is why I'd like to see a
good, objective technical comparison.

Or perhaps each language would be best suited to part of the task
formerly performed by the BASIC program.  Which raises a third
question: is there any point in using *both* Upstart and systemd?
Example off the top of my head: Upstart takes care of early boot and
starts systemd which in turn starts service daemons.  Does this make
any sense, and if so, what would be the advantages and disadvantages
of this?
-- 
Thomas Hood


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