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Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

Am 21.07.2010 23:04, schrieb Ron Johnson:
> On 07/21/2010 06:50 AM, Patrick Matthäi wrote:
> [snip]
>> Or a better idea:
>> * Provide semi-official images with non-free enabled (on
>> cdimage.debian.org) of our releases. This is one big reason, why users
>> decide to use Ubuntu instead of Debian.
> That's why I installed Ubuntu on my wife/kids' PC: the stuff they care
> about (no-fuss audio and video on an old PC) Just Work on Ubuntu but
> were a struggle on Sid.


I think with our next release, we will have got less users. Why?
We stripped out all binary only firmware images from Linux and put them
mostly into the non-free linux-firmware image.

What is the consense?
I can not install any newer Desktop PC, Notebook and now ALSO HP
Proliant servers (current generations) without activating non-free
manualy, which eats time. No PXE boot, automagic installed updates after
netinstall etc...

Don't understand me wrong, I am completly happy with our DFSG, we should
follow this way, but I also think we should provide images with non-free
enabled to allow a simple and fast installation of Debian for our
Desktop and Business users.

Mit freundlichem Gruß / With kind regards,
 Patrick Matthäi
 GNU/Linux Debian Developer

E-Mail: pmatthaei@debian.org

Always if we think we are right,
we were maybe wrong.

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