On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:30:41 +0200 Ludovic Brenta <ludovic@ludovic-brenta.org> wrote: > > Yes, but that will also mean package using gtk-extra2 will not be > > able to link to gtk3, which is what Neil was saying IIUC. > > OK, not a big deal for as long as GTK+2 remains in Debian. The main point is that using gtk+extra2 in an application makes it very difficult to migrate that package to GTK+3.0 so I really don't want new applications to use gtk+extra2. oldlibs does sound like a good idea - life around gtk+extra2 is always quiet. I can only hope that moving to oldlibs is *enough* to dissuade anyone from writing new code against it. > > Hopefully not as long as with gtk1.2 though, so that's > > why trying to build your packages with the preprocessor defines is > > good. > > As Neil explained, building gtk+extra with the preprocessor defines > triggers _lots_ of warnings about usage of deprecated symbols and > fixing them is a _lot_ of work, so I won't bother. :-) If the widgets you need in gtkada are some of the ones causing those warnings, you're going to have to deal with those. > - I will adopt the package gtk+extra and maintain it in Debian for as > long as GTK+2 is in Debian and libgtkada2 needs it. OK. Thanks for taking it on. > - I will not update the package to use GTK+3. > - I will prominently mark the package as deprecated and discourage > new packages from using it. As part of this I will move the package > to main/oldlibs. A note in the description is one way but are there other steps you would use to implement this discouragement? > - I will inform GtkAda's upstream about the pending removal of GTK+2 > which will happen in the future, probably after June 2010; this gives > them one year to reimplement the GtkAda widgets that presently use gtk > +extra with GTK+3. I wish them good luck. :-) Not only would gtkada need to port the gtk+extra2 widgets but *then* port the rest of gtkada to GTK+3.0. This is the hurdle, because the use of gtk+extra2 makes it harder than necessary to migrate the rest of a package to GTK+3.0. > - When a new upstream version of GtkAda removes the dependency on gtk > +extra or GTK+2 disappears from Debian, I will ask for removal of the > package. > > OK? Yes, that's fine by me. Feel free to use / retitle the existing bug report for removal of gtk+extra2 dependency filed against gtkada. > PS. I trimmed the CC: list since I think everyone on this thread > monitors debian-devel by now. OK. (I'm subscribed to -devel too. Sorry for the extra CC's, I wasn't sure who was subscribed.) -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ http://e-mail.is-not-s.ms/
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