Re: problems with the concept of unstable -> testing
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 18:07 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 16/12/08 at 14:34 +0000, Neil McGovern wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 03:07:12PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > > On 16/12/08 at 14:21 +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> > > > I think this question is nonsense. While the bug-fix rate was more or
> > > > less the same since the last two releases, it looks like in this release
> > > > we actually started the freeze with much more RC-bugs than before. So it
> > > > was foreseeable that the freeze will take longer this time. We can't
> > > > solve the problem by fixing bugs faster (that won't work anyways). So
> > > > what's the point of asking how many RC-bugs one has fixed? Does that
> > > > mean only those are allowed to make suggestions, who fixed an RC bug?
> > >
> > > I agree. It's clear that most people don't work on RC bugs instead of
> > ^^^^^
> > > working on their packages: during freezes, they just stop working on
> > > Debian, since it's judged socially incorrect to work on one's packages
> > > in unstable or experimental during the freeze.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Could you justify those two please? I've seen no evidence, let alone
> > any degree of clarity that supports the statement.
> "clear that most people don't work on RC bugs instead of working on their
> packages": I don't have any data on that, it's mostly based on
> perception. Let's try to gather data on something relevant:
> Number of distinct posters per month on firstname.lastname@example.org:
> 200801 944
> 200802 997
> 200803 1390
> 200804 1238
> 200805 1070
> 200806 1013
> 200807 1068
> 200808 1032
> 200809 975
> 200810 946
> 200811 724
> 200812 401 (partial results, obviously)
> So, the number of people working on RC bugs has significantly decreased
> since the beginning of the freeze.
Or there are fewer and fewer bugs in Lenny ?
Or have we returned to [winter|regular] bug rate ?