Re: problems with the concept of unstable -> testing
On 16/12/08 at 14:34 +0000, Neil McGovern wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 03:07:12PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > On 16/12/08 at 14:21 +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> > > I think this question is nonsense. While the bug-fix rate was more or
> > > less the same since the last two releases, it looks like in this release
> > > we actually started the freeze with much more RC-bugs than before. So it
> > > was foreseeable that the freeze will take longer this time. We can't
> > > solve the problem by fixing bugs faster (that won't work anyways). So
> > > what's the point of asking how many RC-bugs one has fixed? Does that
> > > mean only those are allowed to make suggestions, who fixed an RC bug?
> >
> > I agree. It's clear that most people don't work on RC bugs instead of
> ^^^^^
> > working on their packages: during freezes, they just stop working on
> > Debian, since it's judged socially incorrect to work on one's packages
> > in unstable or experimental during the freeze.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Could you justify those two please? I've seen no evidence, let alone
> any degree of clarity that supports the statement.
"clear that most people don't work on RC bugs instead of working on their
packages": I don't have any data on that, it's mostly based on
perception. Let's try to gather data on something relevant:
Number of distinct posters per month on debian-bugs-rc@lists.d.o:
200801 944
200802 997
200803 1390
200804 1238
200805 1070
200806 1013
200807 1068
200808 1032
200809 975
200810 946
200811 724
200812 401 (partial results, obviously)
So, the number of people working on RC bugs has significantly decreased
since the beginning of the freeze.
"it's judged socially incorrect to work on one's packages in unstable or
*experimental* during the freeze."
I'm not sure if a difference is made between unstable and experimental
by people complaining about people doing something else than fixing RC
bugs. Is the concern purely technical, ie "working on unstable packages
makes thing harder for the release"? Or social, ie "you should work on
the release instead of doing $FOO."
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