Re: cdrtools

[Eduard Bloch <edi@gmx.de>]

#include <hallo.h>
* Joerg Schilling [Sun, Aug 13 2006, 12:28:15PM]:

> The original sources do not have such bugs and many Debian users that 

Most of that is true if and only if the users follow your
recommendations and strictly use kernel 2.4.x, ide-scsi emulation and
install your programs as suid-root.

Every attempt to persuade you of going along with mainstream development
and accept the existence or more recent user requirements leads only to
reading your usual text blocks about bad, evil, inept kernel developers
and recommendations to install as suid-root and so in defacto no
progress. And don't tell me I am lying, our BTS is full of them.

> I did never claim that cdrecord is free of bugs, but it works out of the box
> on Linux while the version Debian publishes does not because Debian introduced
> bugs into cdrtools that are not present in the original.

Then let's see what a user of your software would do, in a
not-so-uncommon use case:

User A wants to burn a CD-ROM. She gets cdrtools, compiles it and tries
to burn a CD. User A belongs to the group cdrom on a machine with a
stable kernel 2.6.x (because kernel 2.4 does no longer work on this two
years old system) and has write permissions to /dev/cdrw (whatever that
device is). User A is not root and there is no "sudo" shortcut or so.

Using your "original software" there is no solution for this most simple
case. And so there is no point in throwing hot air, talking about
"bugs", "broken", ..., as long as you are not willing to provide one.

> See bugs caused by Debian's malicious patches:
> 
> 374685, 297027, 309250, 330506, 347596, 360295, 295593, 297514, 392803, 309812,
> 317793, 325766, 328308, 330180, 339459, 335253, 335253, 350330, 350342, 370603,
> 374345, 377069, 377421, 377588, 

>From the unreleased branch developed in spring:

Closes: 271114 278894 283794 295438 304230 309250 310689 310689 312062
312062 314139 317793 325766 326138 342085 344214 344443 350254 350739
353176 353403 355291

and some recently reported duplicates can be closed along with them.

> Problems cause by the fact that Debian is unmaintained and does not use recent 

Not unmaintained but blocked... guess why...

Eduard.
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