Re: Why does doc packages need to contain gzipped files?
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 11:05:54AM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> * Eduard Bloch <email@example.com> [2006-06-25 10:18]:
> > * Martin Wuertele [Sun, Jun 25 2006, 08:09:57AM]:
> > > file-roller does view pdf.gz and if e.g. firefox handels them incorrect
> > > it should be fixed in there. We don't change policy when programs are
> > > broken, we fix them.
> > What shitty kind of reasoing is that? "If it does not use my extra stuff
> > then it is incorrect?" "If Debian does not use RedHat Kickstart then it
> > is broken?"
> Do you have some arguements beside the rant?
See my other post.
> firefox definitely should
> handle .txt.gz and other gzipped plaintext documentation. I'm not
> talking about pdfs, as in the thread back then I still prefere to use
> the built-in compression available for pdfs.
Agree here on "the built-in compression available for pdfs".
Is there any external tool to convert PDF with better internal
compression? I want to see ome PDF make file to use it to improve their
PDF. Some PDF can still be compressed 50%, as I posted, which is bad.
> > > > then I do not understand why it is done.
> > >
> > > See other mails in this thread, ther are good reasons to keep doc
> > > packages compressed, e.g. half a gig of space saving.
> > This extrapolation does hardly describe the real situation. Who install
> > all -doc packages available in Debian and does not use them?
> That number was from a typical installation. I don't think pdfs should
> be gzipped but the built-in compression should be used. However not
> compressing anything is a real unnecessary waste of space.
> On my portable I have ~4.6K gzipped files in /usr/share/doc and only 39
> of them are pdfs, 4 are html files.
> I just copied the whole /user/share/doc (169M) to another lvm and
> uncompressed everything in there - a typical installation - and
> uncompressed all the gzipped files. That results in a total of 323M
> nearly doubling the required space.
But it is a tiny difference considering your /usr may be as big as 2GB.
> I favour keepin plaintext documentation gzipped therefore.
I understand your point here. We should not rush this nor unzipping
should be default even in the future for changelog etc.
Step should be:
1. No more *.pdf.gz file. (That is now)
2. Wait for smart dpkg which can do smart thing upon unpacking. (Such
as dropping /usr/share/doc, /usr/share/info/,...)
3. Ask for unzip option by user preference for text/man/info pages in
usr/share/*/ by dpkg later as wishlist. (Disk will be much cheaper then.)
This will give you faster man/info/... if it is CPU bound.