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* Manoj Srivastava (srivasta@debian.org) wrote:
> On 24 Apr 2006, Thomas Bushnell said:
> > Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> writes:
> >
> >> In this case, there have been deeply felt and vehement
> >> protests for Debian removing a critical subset of the software
> >> shipped with make/gnus, with people appealing to keep the code
> >> together with the docs even if it meant removing the package to
> >> non-free.  Upstream is strongly opposed to removing the non-free
> >> documentation; to imply this is upstreams project (with a perhaps
> >> unreleased version) seems deceptive to my eyes.
> >
> > It's free software.  They don't get to make those demands.
>         No.  But there are user expectations, and when you talk about
>  source package for Gnus, the assumption is that the orig,tar.gz comes
>  from the FSF, and the debian changes are in the diff.gz.  There are
>  debian specific changes to Gnus, and they do love in diff.gz -- apart
>  from the documentation that we are ripping out, and the build system
>  changes to reflect that.

There's no reason for the build system changes not to live in the
diff.gz. Other than making the orig.tar.gz broken on its own.
> >> Not acknowledging it in the package name, but pretending it is
> >> just a new upstream version, bothers me.
> >
> > The version is not the only documentation.  The "dfsg" tag in
> > version names means not "this is the upstream dfsg version", it
> > means "this is the Debian-modified version, where the only
> > modifications made were those we did to make the package meet the
> > DFSG."
>         Sorry, that string in the upstream version does not convey
>  that to me at all. It makes me think that larsi released a second
>  version compatible of the DFSG.

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