* Manoj Srivastava (srivasta@debian.org) wrote: > On 24 Apr 2006, Thomas Bushnell said: > > > Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> writes: > > > >> In this case, there have been deeply felt and vehement > >> protests for Debian removing a critical subset of the software > >> shipped with make/gnus, with people appealing to keep the code > >> together with the docs even if it meant removing the package to > >> non-free. Upstream is strongly opposed to removing the non-free > >> documentation; to imply this is upstreams project (with a perhaps > >> unreleased version) seems deceptive to my eyes. > > > > It's free software. They don't get to make those demands. > > No. But there are user expectations, and when you talk about > source package for Gnus, the assumption is that the orig,tar.gz comes > from the FSF, and the debian changes are in the diff.gz. There are > debian specific changes to Gnus, and they do love in diff.gz -- apart > from the documentation that we are ripping out, and the build system > changes to reflect that. There's no reason for the build system changes not to live in the diff.gz. Other than making the orig.tar.gz broken on its own. > >> Not acknowledging it in the package name, but pretending it is > >> just a new upstream version, bothers me. > > > > The version is not the only documentation. The "dfsg" tag in > > version names means not "this is the upstream dfsg version", it > > means "this is the Debian-modified version, where the only > > modifications made were those we did to make the package meet the > > DFSG." > > Sorry, that string in the upstream version does not convey > that to me at all. It makes me think that larsi released a second > version compatible of the DFSG. -- Eric Dorland <eric@kuroneko.ca> ICQ: #61138586, Jabber: hooty@jabber.com 1024D/16D970C6 097C 4861 9934 27A0 8E1C 2B0A 61E9 8ECF 16D9 70C6 -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d- s++: a-- C+++ UL+++ P++ L++ E++ W++ N+ o K- w+ O? M++ V-- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ X+ R tv++ b+++ DI+ D+ G e h! r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
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