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Re: switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?

On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 03:31:26PM +0100, Christian Fromme wrote:
> On 20.12. 08:36, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > I'm still missing the incentive. Joey Hess wrote in his earlier message
> > that "It's now only marginally larger than nvi". It achieves that by
> > removing many of the features that distinguish vim from nvi, to the
> > point that my guess is that most of those who prefer vim will need to
> > install the full vim anyway, while those that prefer nvi will just fell
> > vaguely dissastified by the change. If the result of this is that a)
> > base is not smaller, and b) vim users still have to install vim-nottiny,
> > and c) nvi users now have to install nvi, I don't think it's a net win.
> As much as I personally prefer vim, I feel your arguments a) b) and c) are the
> strongest I've read so far in this thread and therefore I also have to agree
> on the conclusion: Keep nvi as default.

I don't think it's easily possible to count on people contributing to
this thread to be representative, but I do think (b) is certainly less
than it seems: Even vim-tiny would I think be liked more than nvi --
because vim-tiny invoked as 'vim' can be configured easily to be pretty
much like the real vim, only lacking such features as systax hilighting
which you can do without easily, if you're working on a small-editor
environment. Looking at popcon, vim has about twice the amount of users
as nvi, while nvi is the default vi, and vim is merely optional.

I think this is an excellent question to phrase with a few options in a
devotee-poll, and have people vote on it -- results being purely
advisory, the poll just being informative, and any results updated live,
rather than only after a delay. I think it'd be good to representative
polls on a reasonably regularly basis -- close to the same
representativeness, and stil much much more lighter than a GR, so easier
to just do when some people feel a more clear idea of what the average
DD thinks is needed than what one can gather from a mailinglist thread.


Jeroen van Wolffelaar
Jeroen@wolffelaar.nl (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357)

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