Summarising the thread so far, the issue does not seem to be very contentious, there are some who like nvi but noone who feels very strongly that it needs to remain the editor in base. A few places were identified where vim's defaults are particularly umcomfortable to people who expect a standard vi, these include autoindent being defaulted to on in the system wide vimrc, and nocompatible being turned on there also, which makes vim -C not behave as expected and enables lots of divergant behavior. vim's maintainer may want to consider documenting/otherwise dealing with these if vim-tiny goes into base and becomes the program people get when running "vi" by default. I'd still like to know what Steve Greenland thinks of this, since he maintains nvi. I think that if the maintainers of vim and nvi agree to swap the one that is in base, that's their perogative to do now since the thread hasn't turned up any particular reasons not to do it. -- see shy jo
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