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Re: congratulations to our ftp-master team

On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 11:08:52AM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > But it is not doing a great job with processing a few old uploads.  I
> > consider it a problem that no decision have been taken on the few
> > really old uploads (xvidcap, rte, mplayer). 
> One of the FTP masters (I forgot who) once said that the best way to
> help get mplayer into the archive would be to present an overview of
> the patent situation surrounding MPEG and the like. ffmpeg has such
> an overview in README.patents, which might serve as a good basis, as
> the core library code of mplayer, ffmpeg and xvidcap is identical.
> (libavcodec/libavformat)

Yes, the core library is the same, that's why I wanted xvidcap to point to
link against the one provided in ffmpeg's packages and repackage the source
to remove the ffmpeg files, I *guess* mplayer could do likewise.

Notice, in any case, that the xvidcap packages in NEW *don't* use ffmpeg, the
source code is there:

$ ldd /usr/bin/xvidcap
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x40033000)
        libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x40086000)
        libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x400a4000)
        libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x400c9000)
        libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x400dd000)
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400f2000)
        libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40101000)
        libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x4010a000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40121000)
        libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4023a000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40289000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40354000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4037a000)

Relevant changelog:
  * This source package will build gvidcap and provide at as a separate
    binary package. It does not provide yet support for ffmpeg, but
    will do in future versions.

Either this fact has not been noticed by the FTP masters or they don't care
and having the source code of ffmpeg there is sufficient for them to delay
the package entrance in the archive (even if there are packages with the same
source code already in the archive, i.e. avifile, and I don't see anybody
trying to remove them because of patent issues).



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