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Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

* Simon Huggins (huggie@earth.li) wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:16:18AM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > * Marco d'Itri (md@Linux.IT) wrote:
> > > I'm here to build the best free OS, not to collect the most liberal
> > > trademarks. If a trademark license allows us to ship the software the
> > > way we want and there are no practical problems in removing trademark
> > > references if it were ever needed then I think it's obvious that we
> > > would do a disservice to our users by removing from Debian such a widely
> > > know trademark without a good reason.
> > Well the whole issue is I don't believe we're allowed to ship the
> > software the way we want. We would be compromising our principles by
> > doing so. 
> Sorry, I think I must have missed something here.  Why are you bothering
> to ask -devel when you've clearly already decided upon your position?

Well I clearly have an opinion on the matter, but I'm not working in
vacuum, and I never said I couldn't be convinced.
> Like others in this thread I disagree with your position.  I don't think
> you'd be compromising Debian's principles in doing this as it's just
> about the name and it's purported to be easy to change the name if
> downstream users do patch it.
> If people want to rip out the guts of firefox then they have to rename
> it.  I see no problem here.  Debian has proved it only wants to do nice,
> fluffy things to firefox, Gervase is being accomodating as far as I can
> tell.
> Why do you want to make Debian the distribution that users moan about
> shipping iceweasel when there is no reason not to just ship firefox?
> Pragmatically yours,
> Simon.

Indeed the most pragmatic thing to do is to keep the name. But you
don't feel that accepting a deal with the Mozilla foundation is
against DFSG #8? Why not? 

Eric Dorland <eric.dorland@mail.mcgill.ca>
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